Can you truly appreciate music if you know the person behind it has had controversies? That's the tough question we're tackling today, taking a deep dive into the music world's biggest conundrums in light of famous cases like R. Kelly and Michael Jackson. We explore the moral crossroads of supporting such artists and the implications it might have. Alongside this critical examination, we also consider the complex tapestry of their personal experiences, and grapple with the difficult task of separating the art from the artist.
Switching gears, we also delve into the murky waters of age and relationships within the celebrity sphere, using the case of Marcus Houston's relationship with a significantly younger woman as our lens. Consent, the role of parents, and the ethical boundaries of such relationships are all under our microscope. Furthermore, we shine a spotlight on allegations against Lizzo and her dancers, questioning the ethical lines when performance and power dynamics intertwine. Join us as we navigate these intricate topics, one controversial celebrity at a time. Prepare for a no-holds-barred exploration of the intersection between personal actions and public personas.
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Can you truly appreciate music if you know the person behind it has had controversies? That's the tough question we're tackling today, taking a deep dive into the music world's biggest conundrums in light of famous cases like R. Kelly and Michael Jackson. We explore the moral crossroads of supporting such artists and the implications it might have. Alongside this critical examination, we also consider the complex tapestry of their personal experiences, and grapple with the difficult task of separating the art from the artist.
Switching gears, we also delve into the murky waters of age and relationships within the celebrity sphere, using the case of Marcus Houston's relationship with a significantly younger woman as our lens. Consent, the role of parents, and the ethical boundaries of such relationships are all under our microscope. Furthermore, we shine a spotlight on allegations against Lizzo and her dancers, questioning the ethical lines when performance and power dynamics intertwine. Join us as we navigate these intricate topics, one controversial celebrity at a time. Prepare for a no-holds-barred exploration of the intersection between personal actions and public personas.
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So are we able to separate a person's personal actions from the music? You gotta ask. Sorry boy, I'm asking you, I'm asking you, that's a trio y'all.
Speaker 2:
That's a tough one because I'll be looking at, like our Kelly, I look at that. That was the first example, to me at least. Like are we, are you gonna still support this music Through all of this? Like that was the first example and people always say there's two different people like whatever he did there, but musically he was a genius. So some people feel like that was okay because they had nothing to do with the music.
Speaker 3:
Yeah, I don't. I don't know Robert, but I know our Kelly right. I listen to our Kelly I don't know Robert, but yeah exactly.
Speaker 2:
It bought. I mean, I guess it depends on what you do, right, you for me. But when you talk about young girls, I don't got no daughters. Yeah but that does rub me a different way as a grown-ass man. Whether you're manipulating, how have you choose to do it? I don't that. I don't associate with those. I feel like there's there's some things you don't touch.
Speaker 3:
All right, eric, so how'd you feel about the Michael Jackson situation? Let's start with him first, because that's that. That was Ron, our era, of course, but we were younger then.
Speaker 1:
But that made. That made me uncomfortable, but I wasn't. I wasn't old enough to know that you had, like, a choice of judging, a Judging music based on what a person was personally doing, like when that happened. It wasn't like social media and things like that. You didn't know a lot about artists.
Speaker 1:
No you just knew they music. Now you see, because so much is put out there, we know a lot about artists. Sometimes you, you ain't never even see your favorite artists, but I have concert on a poster. If you, if you did get a poster, you, that was something you cherish. Now we see so much, we able to judge them. So I didn't, I didn't know how to judge any Celebrities allegations, but Michael Jackson was never found guilty he was accused of.
Speaker 2:
He was and he was only guilty of, like in here, he did little boys did sleep on his bed, right, right, but he ain't never According to the horse like the case, right, he'd never touched them or did anything wrong, illegal, that he shouldn't be doing. But does it look bad for a grown-ass man To have little boys in his bed? Absolutely. But we're talking about Michael Jackson, who was robbed of a at the same time, who didn't really have the childhood as Right, who he just felt he was being innocent, who was a star so young. Can I understand that mentality sometimes, I guess, sometimes I was like, well, if you, I like, it can kind of make sense. Like you know, I'm saying I'm like, I can see that because he was, he was always like a little big kid.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, he was different. Like I could. I can Looking now if I had to guess and I don't like to take, I don't even Today. I don't like to have opinions on things I don't really know about, but just to voice my opinion on it. I don't think he did it, because I seen it interview where they asked them All right, would you still invite kids over to your house? And he said absolutely.
Speaker 1:
Like so if you was, if anybody guilty, gonna stay away from it. Anybody, even even if you're not guilty, you just insecure or you trying to play it safe, you gonna stay away from it. The fact that you he said absolutely yeah, mean that he stood on a much stronger level of integrity to where the public opinion didn't even matter what he knew was true. So when you move, when you move that way Against popular opinion, against what the lawyers might it advise, against the consequences, what you're gonna lose, then I'm like, oh, you have a different set of morals to where you living in your truth. And so I was like, no, I don't think he did it. He'll he on a different type of spectrum. Yeah, where I would, I could see him feeling more comfortable around around youth.
Speaker 2:
So, to answer your question, um, I haven't bumped our Kelly since. Not having gone through our Kelly since the situation, I'll be honest man, it's hard to not bump him.
Speaker 3:
You know I'm saying I and when I listen to my music, I listen to it on shuffle and I got like three, about four thousand songs on my phone and if he comes on I don't cut it off around people, I don't play. Mr Kelly, you know I don't play our killer on people, but me alone if I'm home cleaning whatever like that. Yes, I will listen to him, I do I do?
Speaker 1:
I still play our Kelly, you know I, because we have to take responsibility. If you listen to some of his songs, he was, he was crying out to us. There's a, there's a fight in a battle that Artists, if you paying attention, you you see the transitions they going through. He had this hyper sexualized Upringing and then he also had his Religious background, his faith in God. You see, these these ups and downs that you'll oscillate Throughout the music industry. A lot of Michael Jackson went through the same thing. He was, he was in thriller, he was a zombie. Then he went to save in the world and you look at Tupac and his variations. So the people, we, we ignore when these artists are Crying out to us and we not taking responsibility of our Contribution to where to where. That causes artists to even Give us the music and portray the image that we want to see from them.
Speaker 3:
Can. Can I say something real quick side or a quick sidebar? It's the reason why I still do listen to him. It's his Whenever a song come out that you guys like Don't. Don't it remind you of that time when?
Speaker 2:
it came out, yeah, like a session moment.
Speaker 3:
Like I have Rememberable moments, what I was doing when that song came out, like I know exactly at pinpoint when I was and what I done to the song, so was.
Speaker 2:
If your daughter was one of them victims, would you be listening to it?
Speaker 3:
Man listen. Okay. So we must just ask me the same question, um, I think I would say if I had a daughter, probably different. But I don't, um, because she's been in some situations like that. She don't, she don't fuck with him. So I understand it hit me hard because she's my sister when she said that. So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's tough.
Speaker 1:
It's tough. Do you know how normal that was?
Speaker 3:
so if I tell you how my kid With his music plan, I Know, I guess I'm here condone it.
Speaker 1:
We, we, we moved. We moved forward to where we, we evolved to where we no longer allowed those activities. But what he was doing there was, and From how it played out, because many women still stayed with him into their adult years. Going back, that's how it was done. Fathers was given their 13 year old daughters away.
Speaker 1:
You, if you go back far enough, and not even too far let's just go to colonial horse, horse and buggy the, a 13 year old girl, was at the level of maturity as a 35 year old woman today. So the how you would you was pairing people based on Availability for one, the staggering of the age differences and still having to reproduce. So as a civilizationill Primar, we just now getting away from it. We have enough options to where you can be involved with someone of a closer age. But there's details within the R Kelly situation where parents knew what was going on. There was stuff that was just kept a secret, that it was supposed to be none of our business, and then we decided much, much later, people decided that we no longer comfortable with it and now we want to throw this man under the bus, knowing that how we all as just a species, how we came about, and you would see a 14-year-old girl with a 30-year-old man. That was very, very normal in our recent past.
Speaker 2:
But then the laws have checked. I mean, granted, I could understand back in the day how I was, but there's so many things that are in place now. Yeah, it bothers me.
Speaker 1:
So Marcus Houston and the girl he with, how do you?
Speaker 2:
feel about that. I don't have all the statistical. Isn't she 20 or something like that? I don't know. I've seen a post, but I don't really know exactly his story. To be honest with you, I don't know the whole story 100%.
Speaker 1:
So if I had a daughter, let's say she's 16. The values that I might want for my daughter and this may sound a little creepy, but the values that I might want for my daughter may not be in a guy that's her age. So I would hope. But if you're raising your daughter a certain way, if you had that luxury and you have some very, very high standards, what you and if you're looking at the options, it might be a O to do. Like I look at Marcus Houston. I'm like he appeared to be a pretty solid and stand up dude. He's heavy in his faith. He would he wear church clothes every weekend. It looked like. I'm like I could see a father being OK with his 20-year-old daughter being with Marcus Houston.
Speaker 2:
But you say 28,. I mean I think after 18, it's kind of like you grown and if that's what you do, if the person 25, 30, if they 40, I feel like, yeah, that's on you. I kind of feel like you can make mistakes, you can test it out, but anything under 18 is why I just I still don't think you know it all. Like you, I struggle with that, like I get why Boosie said what he said to a little bit about you know, like I get, I just think 18 is that number, you hit 18. And I want you to find somebody mature, responsible, got a good head on their shoulders and doing the right thing. But below 18, I guess I just struggle with that and OK, to that point too. So maybe if that's what he was doing, let's say that was arranged and they were cool with it. I guess that's where those NDA come into play, I'm assuming, but it looks like.
Speaker 2:
Look at Lizzo right now. Now she's going through the same thing with her dancers, right, they were forced to do tasks, whether it's sexual, nonsexual things that weren't known, whether the banana inside the vagina thing eat a banana outside of a vagina. I heard some crazy things and now six more people Just came out and saying, yes, they experienced the same thing. They'll be manipulated to do things that they didn't want to do because they have walked away. Yeah, absolutely, but we're talking about grown folks though.
