Episode 14: Navigating the Nexus: Vee's Journey through Gaming, Content Creation, and Digital Safety

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Hosted by: The Global Zoe, Eric Biddines & Drego Mill

Prepare to be immersed in the captivating world of gaming and content creation as we welcome our guest, Viciouzz aka Vee, a professional gamer and content creator hailing from sunny California. Vee gives us a riveting account of her move from the humble beginnings of a grey Game Boy to the extraordinary realm of Xbox 360 streaming. Through her tales, we'll grasp the exhilarating highs, the unexpected lows, and the unwavering dedication that's mandatory in carving out a successful career in this dynamic industry.

Get ready to unravel the intricacies of the online gaming community, as Vee recalls her surprise when gaming superstars like Ninja and Danrue popped up in her chat. She brings to life the intense scene when a host from none other than Ninja, with a massive 20,000 viewers, crashed her bot! Plus, don't miss out on the heartwarming story of how her community chipped in with gifts to elevate her gaming setup. We also broach the sensitive subjects of online safety and privacy, with Vee pulling from her personal experiences on precautionary measures she takes to safeguard her digital presence.

In a whirlwind of emotions, Vee recounts her personal gaming relationship experiences, including co-parenting, her daughter's blossoming love for gaming, and unexpectedly falling head-over-heels for a long-time gaming friend. She also drops some golden nuggets for aspiring content creators about the importance of balancing gaming and streaming. And she sheds light on the myriad ways to become a partner in this bustling world of gaming. It's not all about thrill and fun though. We also delve into the serious topic of women's safety in the gaming and content creation sphere, highlighting the importance of being vigilant and proactive in maintaining personal security online. So, buckle up for a ride across Vee's remarkable gaming journey and the wisdom she's gathered along the way.

⏰ Chapter Markers ⏰
0:00 - Conversation About Gaming and Content Creation
5:09 - Online Gaming and Content Creation Experiences
13:52 - Gaming Journey
25:14 - The Gaming Relationship Experience
37:42 - Streaming Community Collaboration and Donations
44:32 - Partnerships, Affiliates, and Discord Communities
56:41 - Love Languages and Importance of Space
1:05:41 - Gaming and Content Creation Gender Dynamics
1:17:02 - Content Creation and Online Safety
1:22:28 - Safety and Privacy Concerns

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Speaker 2: 3:13

What's going on? Y'all Y'all tuned in to another episode of Exposure. I'll be your boy, the Global Zoo, and I'm with the game. You're bidding Draco Mel. And today we got a special invited guest, a pro gamer and content creator, vicious aka V. All the way from Cali. How you doing V? Doing, great Doing great Well, we thank you for coming on today. We appreciate your time.

Speaker 4: 3:40

Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 2: 3:41

You're welcome, and we had an episode recently about gaming and Draco was able to take the lead on that episode and there was a lot of knowledge. He dropped on us and he said, hey, I got somebody who's really into it as well, who can speak on it, and from the female perspective, and I was like that sounds awesome, let's get it done. And that's what got us here today. So first question I want to ask you is where are you from and what got you started?

Speaker 4: 4:08

Well, I'm from New York, Bronx, new York, and what got me started is because I was a stay-at-home mom and I've always been gaming, so everybody was telling me I should do the streaming thing and I just didn't want people staring in my face all day, so I was like I don't know about that. But then when I did it, I kind of got kickstarted off within a month and a half and I was pretty much out there since then and I think I started in 2017.

Speaker 3: 4:36

Something I'm mistaken. Hold on, let's go deeper than that. What got you into gaming and when did you start gaming?

Speaker 4: 4:43

Oh, I think I was gaming in the womb, to be honest.

Speaker 2: 4:46

OK, ok.

Speaker 4: 4:48

I think I was gaming in the womb, but now I was gaming since the regular, the Game Boy that was gray, they didn't have no color. I started on that first. That's the stuff I was playing on and then I just went from GameCube, regalent, nintendo, dreamcast, all that other stuff.

Speaker 1: 5:06

So now On Game Boy. What game you remember? Was it Pac-Man?

Speaker 4: 5:12

On the gray one.

Speaker 1: 5:13

Yeah.

Speaker 4: 5:14

No, it was the Super Mario.

Speaker 1: 5:16

Oh, Super Mario OK.

Speaker 4: 5:18

See, I say Mario, I say Mario. They get on me like that all the time. So I will pronounce it like that.

Speaker 1: 5:25

Dreamcast last about two years. Damn, all right, I got that. I don't remember. Honestly, it was supposed to be the next thing, don't?

Speaker 3: 5:33

know honestly.

Speaker 1: 5:34

They had Sonic.

Speaker 3: 5:36

Another question V your online game Like. What got you started to play online? Because we know the history, but I want the world to know and expose the love for gamers. So what were you doing?

Speaker 4: 5:50

OK, so I was playing. Of course, the games didn't have places where you can talk to people at that time, so you was just playing by yourself. And I think once I got a 360, I noticed that you could talk and play with people. My dad got it for me and then I was just like, oh my god, like this is crazy. I didn't know you could talk to people. And from then and I think I was like 14 years old when I started playing the Xbox 360, knowing that you could do that, and I think I just found the joy to be able to communicate with my teammates. Rather than play with my family all the time at home, I had other people to socialize with.

Speaker 3: 6:26

Right right.

Speaker 4: 6:26

So yeah, that was I like that.

Speaker 2: 6:30

That's what's up.

Speaker 4: 6:31

No, that's what's up.

Speaker 2: 6:32

My next question would be what are some skills or qualities that you believe are essential for success in gaming and content creator industry?

Speaker 4: 6:41

Well, I know, for me, I didn't think it was going to kick off as fast as it did when I started, like it, it it was. It was mind boggling to me, I couldn't believe it, but it was more of the consistency you know, being consistent, being myself, as always. You know a lot of people like that. That's like the main things being yourself, you know, and just like basically keep pushing. Like I know some people expect things to happen overnight. It doesn't happen like that with every single person. You know you got to come with different styles, different personalities and stuff like that, and it depends on what people are looking for. And as for me, when I was streaming on the mixer platform, like I said, it was a month and a half and they basically liked just my personality and just me being me. They that's exactly what they told me it was. I was authentic. I wasn't what people wanted me to be, it was just simply me Pretty much.

Speaker 2: 7:35

Can you share any memorable experiences or milestones from your gaming content creation journey? What are some of the key highlights? You've experienced gaming that you probably never even thought of, right I?

Speaker 3: 7:45

give you an idea. I give you one. Please look at it. Let me make the question a little easier. What shocked you the most while? Who showed up in your chat? Like was it? How did you feel when you know, a certain person showed up in your chat? I don't want to say it, but I'm going to let you say it.

Speaker 4: 8:04

Well, I had. I had a few moments where people popped into my chat. But there was. I know you guys know who Ninja is. He rated me one day with thousands of viewers and it broke my computer. I'm not going to lie, I broke my computer. I couldn't handle my computer Can handle all those people being in there talking at the same time.

Speaker 3: 8:24

Explain yeah, I'm a little bit more Explain what that means. Explain it a little bit more, because they're not going to understand.

Speaker 4: 8:30

Yeah, so basically, like it's All those people being in there, it kind of runs. I mean, at the time I didn't have one of those like fast PCs that could you know, uphold a lot of that stuff.

Speaker 4: 8:41

So, when people came in and just it was going and my stream was like going well, he was even apologizing, you know, for it, but I was just thankful because I didn't think that that would ever happen. You know, like somebody like Ninja would even come across my stream and raid me and, you know, share his viewers with me. And then I had another time where Another guy named if you guys know who Dan Rue is he also came in to my stream one day. He didn't, he wanted to learn how to set things up and everything like that. So I wound up helping him set up his stream and now he's now streaming till this day on multiple platforms and he always tells everybody like, yeah, like V helped me set this up, you know, because a lot of people didn't believe him, a lot of people didn't want to help him and I took the time to do that. You know she didn't believe it was him in the chair, you know who was down?

Speaker 3: 9:27

Which Dan Rue she talking about? Right, hey baby, yeah, yeah, oh, that's awesome, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 9:34

It was him, and then she was like prove it to me, and he did.

Speaker 3: 9:38

Yeah, he proved that. He threw it. I think he was donating and nobody would donate the money that he was doing. It's like it's me. And then she saw the profile and it actually connected that it was him. Oh yeah, what's up? Yeah, Congratulations.

Speaker 2: 9:53

Oh, yeah, what's up? Yeah, congratulations on that. Yeah, oh, big congratulations, bigger. You know, listen, I haven't put myself out there a little bit because I do music, right, so I, you know, after I stop playing video game, like I don't play it as much, but you know, I, you know, now my logic is pro tools. It's recording myself is like my gaming world. So, like, how did you say when I want to put myself out there? Because now you guys are streaming, right, you got Twitch, you got YouTube where you can go live and monetize your channels. What is the bravery? Come from the sale. Okay, not only do I enjoy gaming with my friends, but I also going to let people view and come in and comment. And you know, and what do you do with the criticism, whether it's negative or positive? How do you continue to do what you do? Tell them, okay.

Speaker 4: 10:42

Okay. So I'll tell you one thing, me this. This was my fear of streaming. To be honest, like I said, people staring at you, having a bunch of judgment, and just you know there's always a negative people. But, like I said in the beginning, it was, it was pretty good, but I was nervous because I've never had so many people I once just staring at a screen and staring at me, you know, like it's just like I don't, I don't know, like if, maybe, if I, I have a booger in my nose and I want to pick my nose. I can't pick my nose because they all looking at me. So I'm just like I don't know what to do.

Speaker 4: 11:13

Yeah, we do, we do get the the negative parts of people and I'm going to be completely honest. Sometimes I kill them with kindness. Sometimes my comebacks are way more stronger than theirs that they don't know how to handle it. Um, yeah, you know, I just I want them to understand that this a lot of them coming to say this time someone came in, can I? How vulgar can I be? How vulgar can I be? I want you to keep it a hundred.

Speaker 4: 11:42

I'm going to give y'all an example oh no, it's, it's, it's going to be crazy. So there was a person that came into my stream and a lot of us female gamers their favorite thing is for them to tell us to that we should be in the kitchen rather than playing the game, which is so disrespectful. So the guy came in and he goes shouldn't you be in the kitchen? And I was like wow, that's crazy, because if you're that hungry, you could come eat this pussy. That's what I told him.

Speaker 2: 12:14

So, and guess what?

Speaker 4: 12:16

He didn't say nothing after that. Nothing, it was nothing. He didn't even know what to say Nothing at all. I told y'all like listen, don't, don't play with me. Like there's times I could ignore people. But then it's like when stuff like that happens, especially when men I feel like that's like a lot of men in general think that women are not supposed to be playing games. They think it's about like yeah, we don't get dressed up to look cute and all types of stuff like that or whatever.

Speaker 4: 12:46

But, some of us can actually game, no matter how good we look, how much we do our makeup, do our hair Like, we do have, you know, game gaming in our blood. It's not all about just sitting there looking pretty all the time Like, yeah, granted, makes you money, but I'm all about my gaming. I love my gaming. You know, a lot of the times there's there's a lot of women who also sit there. They talk to their stream. That's perfectly fine, like I love it. I love talking to my community, but I'm so much like into gaming that I can't do that for too long, you know, because I want to game out. A lot of people want to. You know, see how good I am, or just to troll me, either one.

Speaker 3: 13:28

She's one of them that actually look good and can kick ass while gaming, so this is why?

Speaker 2: 13:34

Thank you, I think these numbers are crazy good.

Speaker 3: 13:36

Okay, so it's not a combination, that's not just okay, I'm a little pretty and look at my hair and swing my hair.

Speaker 4: 13:42

It's not one of them.

Speaker 3: 13:44

And she's in it. She's going him cursing, kicking ass and winning games.

Speaker 2: 13:49

So this is I did go on the Instagram and watch some of the clips. I did, I did have, I did laugh, I did enjoy watching you because I'm trying to understand. And then I was going I see Drago reactions and I'm seeing some of your reactions. I was like, yeah, this is definitely interesting, you know good stuff Good.

Speaker 1: 14:06

Is it like a? Is it a sport for you or a craft?

Speaker 4: 14:12

No, it's definitely, I would say, a craft and it's something like I know some people stream and do this because they feel like they're forcing themselves, because they want to make income from it. I have my slow days, my very, very slow days, my very slow weeks sometimes, and it's like I usually don't care about it. I don't care because I enjoyed gaming way before doing the streaming thing.

Speaker 2: 14:32

Gotcha.

Speaker 4: 14:33

So it's, it's nothing different for me.

Speaker 3: 14:35

So V. I want you to explain and then tell them how you started on your bed with no chair, your back hurting, it sucks, and how people came by genuinely stuck with you and how everything right now in your background to your computer, your mic, all of it was was funded from just gaming, having fun, being genuine, and your whole setup was just created from people loving your genuine self and your whole background was just paid for from viewers Like. I want you to explain that like from from the bed, because I remember when you were on your bed and complaining your back hurts. You know if you're on your bed guys, you know you can't really stay steady and you're on the controller. She's on the edge of her bed and I have to throw this in there. So she's like four or five or height.

Speaker 4: 15:31

So boy bye.

Speaker 3: 15:33

Don't do that.

Speaker 4: 15:35

Don't do that. You're going to give me my damn inches. Got women. What, what do you mean Okay, so she's 411 and her feet are gaming on the bed. I'm 511.

Speaker 3: 15:42

God damn it, but yeah. So it is very uncomfortable to be on the bed. And gaming and being to have to stay up because you know people are watching you so I want you to explain from that part and how people came by and the numbers, like what was the first big, don't know. That's a two part question. But wait, don't donation. Okay, wait when before?

Speaker 4: 16:07

like I got like everything else. So when I was in the X box camera. I was like I'm not going to be on the X box camera and then it's like in the X box camera Mixer on your beds from there.

Speaker 3: 16:18

And what was your? Your first big?

Speaker 4: 16:21

My first big donor was probably a hundred dollars. I got a hundred dollars because I did have a goal up to Get a setup, because I was streaming, yes, directly from the Xbox with a webcam plugged into it and Running mixer through Xbox. Like I had no setup, no, nothing. It was just at the corner, like the edge of my bed with a light beaming on me so that people could see, and then I was just basically gaming.

Speaker 4: 16:44

But even though I started like that, like I got partnered off of that, like you know, just sitting there I didn't have anything. But once, I guess, like people were still sending me money and stuff, you know, so that I could get like gaming chairs, desk and PC and stuff. But I guess, once I got partnered, it was just like I let everybody know like, oh my god, I got partnered, I'm gonna, you know, need some stuff. And when I tell you, my community came through, they came through, got me desk, got me chair, pc monitors, everything like, even though it wasn't probably like the highest tech things. It was a good start, you know, I was able to go live and be able to sit at a desk and not play on my big ass 60 inch TV.

Speaker 4: 17:26

I see the difference. You know, when playing on a monitor it's like so much better. But yeah, it was, it was. It was really nice from that and to till now, like that. Honestly, they're still helping, you know. I'm still upgrading as I go. Like this problem, my mic is probably the newest thing I got.

Speaker 2: 17:42

That's a short SB. Yes, yeah, it looks nice, I think the SM wait, yes, I'm seven, be okay, there you go. Yeah, yeah, yes you know, michael Jackson recorded thriller on that microphone.

Speaker 4: 17:59

But a lot of people do record on this mic. I've seen a lot of people record on it right. Quality, for sure.

Speaker 3: 18:06

So, eric, so when, when I say that donations and the money comes in and she's able to Show her personality, like her entire background, that's just her, that's so. It is a craft and it's. It's a hobby and it's actually fun because your channel becomes your personality. You understand, so you get to show your viewers who you really are, not just what they see and what knowledge, what they, what's all behind you and what you, you know what you're really into. So it becomes you and People become more connected to you when you do stuff like that and they're willing to just give more.

Speaker 2: 18:41

So, yeah, understood. So gaming is not your main source of income, that's, this is like a, would you say, additional source of income when we do it.

Speaker 4: 18:50

Mm-hmm. This is my main source of income for five years.

Speaker 2: 19:01

That's okay, that's awesome. That's awesome. Hmm, so what? I know it's not as easy, so what? What does one have to consider to get to your level? We know you had the ground. You started from the bottom. So someone who's just trying to jump into this hearing that T Grizzly makes 250,000 a month, what are some things people really got to consider To hone in on their craft if they want to pursue gaming and creating content, as yourself?

Speaker 4: 19:29

Well, one thing I tell them not to do because a lot of people make this mistake is they go into creating content and gaming and streaming and decide to want to quit their job without even having any type of you know following, or you know a good amount of supporters like to To actually bring in that money. You know we all start small, but we got to start small. Keep our jobs, but you know you quit your job when you feel like you're making enough to uphold yourself. You know, without Having the job and having the stress of doing both. You know, because there are full-time streamers and they do also try to do work at the same time and I know it's draining wait, wait.

Speaker 3: 20:11

So, um, you know a couple of people that have actually quit their job.

Speaker 4: 20:16

Yep, yep, I do, yep, yeah, and I always tell them like that, that was.

Speaker 4: 20:27

That would probably one of the biggest mistakes that you can ever do. Because, though you feel like, oh, it's working, because I know a lot of people when they start streaming in the beginning, people know you trying to get Just stuff together. They're gonna show you a lot of love, you know, or they're gonna send you money in order to come up with the streaming, you know, equipment and everything like that, and a lot of people they feed off of that like, oh, if it's working like this, now I'm getting all this money and stuff, shoot, I could quit my job, but no, they're just helping you Get your stuff and now you're on your own, do what you. Now it's up to you to make this money on your own. You know, make it on your own so that now other people's gonna come in and then, of course, you know, they're gonna help you out with, either you know, subs, donations or whatever you know, whatever way they can do it. But yeah, just don't quit your job and that don't.

Speaker 2: 21:17

No, I think that goes the same for artists out there too.

Speaker 4: 21:20

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 21:20

You know what I mean. Unless you got a funding or an independent label out there, it's the same Agree, same message. I will be preaching across everyone else out there.

Speaker 4: 21:28

All right.

Speaker 3: 21:30

I want to say, well, because of fishes, but the gaming community I want to talk about, about the gaming community. This is kind of how, like how we met, I didn't know who you are and we didn't like you didn't know who we all were, but we're gaming and how we connected. I want you to explain that from the female point of view About the gaming community, how you won't know who the person is on the other side of the Mike and how we connect and we probably could been connected for ten years and never saw each other. Can you explain a little bit more about that? I mean?

Speaker 4: 22:02

to be, honest. Like your mods right now like right now, or some of them not even your mods.

Speaker 3: 22:08

Can you explain, like the, the, the history and what is a mod? Oh, okay, I'm gonna let her do it. I'm gonna let her explain it. She got a whole bunch, all right.

Speaker 4: 22:18

So a moderator is for the, the short term of it. They're like the police of the chat, like if there's people coming in with negativity, spamming the chat, doing anything wrong, they're the ones who time them out, ban them from the stream and stuff like that, just so you don't have to do it while you're streaming because you know you're trying to do your content. You can't keep, you can't read chat, try to get people out the chat who are being negative and try to play the game at the same Time. So they kind of lift the load of a bunch of the stuff going on in the chat for you. But as for, oh, my god, like I'm I think I'm kind of coming back on that now that you said that because it is true, you and I knew each other for over a decade, has more, goddamn, it's been so long and we have never met each other. And I've, I've met, I've. I have other people who I've known for years on the Xbox, like maybe eight, seven years and I'm just now meeting them in person and it's like, it's so good to know, like when you are meeting some of these people in person, that they are the same exact individual Physically.

Speaker 4: 23:23

You know, cuz some people. They act one certain, a certain way and then when you meet them You're like okay, this wasn't the person I was friends with. Like who is this? Like it's a whole, and that's that's what I mean about you being yourself. You know, cuz people? Just I feel like they. They Try to put on stuff that they think that other people want to see and that I know that ain't me. I don't like it. I want you to be yourself. 24, seven.

Speaker 3: 23:46

Can we? Let's let's get a little deeper into that, can we? We go a little.

Speaker 4: 23:52

I'm listening.

Speaker 3: 23:55

Just, we're talking about connections and, and emotional, I want to say emotional, physical. All of you know all of the emotions. Um, I'm gonna just ask you the question. I know, but have you Falling in love with someone over online gaming?

Speaker 3: 24:17

Yep, yeah and hold on. Here's the second part. Is the second question. He's the second part of that question. Um, how does? How? Is it Balancing the relationship or the emotions when it comes to streaming? Because I know it's when it comes to streaming Gaming and balancing your personal life with that situation. Could you explain a little bit on that? Oh?

Speaker 4: 24:46

Yeah, so I did. Yes, I did meet in full in love with someone on Xbox and we wound up getting married. Oh, you did get married. Yes, we got. Well, I'm divorced now so, oh yeah, no, it's good, but yeah, we, we got married. I knew him for literally almost all my life and we do have a daughter and and that that was.

Speaker 4: 25:14

It was actually pretty interesting. You know, like I, you never expect stuff like that to happen While gaming, but I think the the best thing about that situation was because sometimes people do, you know, fall in love with people who was probably on the other side of the world where you can't even get to them, but he just so happened to be across the bridge because he was in New York as well. He was just an hour away on the train ride, so he was pretty close and you know, we knew each other for so long, got married, him being in the military and everything like that and you know, I mean we're good now, we we good co-parenting now. But it was definitely. I would I wouldn't like say I regret that experience because it's it was.

Speaker 4: 25:53

It was crazy for me. It was crazy because I you just don't expect stuff like that and juggling a relationship with somebody who was also into gaming is actually not bad like if they are also gamers, it it doesn't like it's not much of an issue. I think the only issue with that will probably be like, you know, if you're not spending time with each other, then I'll see that that'd be a problem. But a lot of the times we would spend time with each other gaming. You know we'd game together, so it was like we're still doing stuff together, so that never Really was an issue for me.

Speaker 3: 26:29

What would you do it again? Would you do it again?

Speaker 4: 26:31

What I do, do what again?

Speaker 3: 26:32

not saying get married, but like you. Know what I mean. Like yeah.

Speaker 4: 26:40

Yeah, of course, to be honest, I said like as of now, I Did say if I was to find somebody, I need them to also be gamers, because it's really hard to be with people who don't understand. It is so Like I would never want to be with somebody who's gonna try to Stir me away from either not just streaming, but gaming in general. Like gaming is something I do every single day, you know, and I feel like whoever I encounter at some point, I encounter at some point, I would hope that they're also a gamer, because they understand, they would understand you know what to do and ask for me, like I'm not. I'm not one of them women who complain about my man playing a game. She'll give me the controllable the controller.

Speaker 4: 27:27

Hello.

Speaker 2: 27:30

That's me.

Speaker 4: 27:30

Got you.

Speaker 2: 27:31

Hmm, so what would be like the average time? What would be like a good amount of time, like you think, average per day? You would say you would game and, and if you're in a relationship, are we both doing the same amount of time or there's some compromise somewhere in there?

Speaker 4: 27:47

well, me being single.

Speaker 4: 27:51

I stream as long as I damn well, please. As for being in a relationship, I mean, yeah, of course you got to have your time and it's and I wouldn't say it's also just for a relationship, it's for yourself as well, because you do get tied up into stuff like this, like you could stay here and game for hours and you're sitting there for hours because you're enjoying yourself. But it's also not healthy either. Right, it's also not healthy. You got a, you got to get out there, you got to walk around, you got to exercise, you got to make sure you're drinking water, you're eating good, you know, because a lot of people do get sick and have died from, you know, streaming and gaming and not Taking care of their health because they're so Indulged in gaming, like it's.

Speaker 4: 28:31

It's, it's scary, but I think in a relationship standpoint, I I don't mind. You know I would take time off. It gives me a reason to take time off, you know, to have fun, because I do like getting out as well. So I mean, I don't. I haven't encountered that yet. So it's kind of hard to speak on that, because everybody else has understood what I've done, what I do, and they don't question it.

Speaker 2: 28:55

Gotcha and you say you're, you have a daughter, right, how? What is your daughter?

Speaker 4: 28:59

She's six. She'll be seven in November.

Speaker 1: 29:01

Okay, okay, no, scorpio yeah.

Speaker 4: 29:05

She act like one too.

Speaker 2: 29:06

Hmm, and I'm sure that curiosity when she sees you gaming, is that something you see her into?

Speaker 4: 29:12

oh, oh, for sure there are. There are a lot of videos that I know, drago he knows there are videos of her and I, even from her being two years old to three years old.

Speaker 4: 29:25

There was one video that kind of went a little viral on on Twitter and Mm-hmm and I was playing I think I was playing fortnight and I died and my daughter just came into the my camera. She like did this dramatic, like science? She goes, oh your trash, years old, two years old, and told me I was trash. And then another time I was playing gears award, she told me somebody was right there and I guess I still died by them. This girl Scream and she tried to snatch a controller and she's like I got it, like give me the controller Because you're not doing it right. Like she is gonna be a gamer and even right now she plays a lot of games. So since two years old she's been into it and wanting to play. So I could see her. I could definitely see her carrying in the footsteps. I mean, I'm not sure about the streaming, but the gaming side she's definitely on board with that for sure.

Speaker 1: 30:18

That's what.

Speaker 3: 30:19

I want to. I want to go back real quick to the trolling in the chat. Like trolling, yeah, sometimes mods can take care of it and then sometimes you can tell your minds not to you got, you can handle it. I just want to mention the time where I was Co-streaming with someone. That means cold streaming is kind of like what we're doing right now. Well, we got these two screens where it's us and then or another Streamer playing with you, but you can see both our streams on one screen, yeah. So I got a fresh new cut and the first and I was playing with, oh, shut out to the fat stacks. He had a freaking cut and we got lighting, but our lighting is not as beautiful and soft as this. So that means now I got a forehead and you can see the clean coming to my forehead right and you can see the green coming on his forehead, yeah. And then one dude came in the chat. He was trolling. He said man, you guys look like two milk duds. When I said I laughed. So I told him not. To be honest, I laughed so hard I cried. On stream dude donated. I think he donated, but he actually followed. That's what he did. He followed the channel. He just, he just trolled, follow the channel and became a viewer.

Speaker 3: 31:28

So you can't make something negative into a positive. Sometimes people do it to see what your reaction is gonna be, depending what it is we get. We get sometimes some bad stuff that come up on screen where you're like, hmm, should I react or should I not, depending, you know, if you want to Roast them, but they, you know, there's a I think there's a term In agreements that we should, we should not. But there's times when you're going you're gonna want to Flame somebody up. You know I'm saying so, I'm with you, yeah, but again, it can. You can turn something negative into a positive and sometimes it actually it. It helps out. You know your chat and your and the interaction in the chat. So, yeah, it just, it just depends. I just wanted to bring that up real quick.

Speaker 2: 32:11

Okay, what? That's a good thing, and I know we're using what are some other abbreviations or terms we got. We got you said mod is for a moderator. There's there anything else in the chat that we could look out for? What else is there as far as roles is concerned?

Speaker 3: 32:26

VIPs yeah, okay, vips which which, like, if you were came to my channel, I would have made you, I could make you a VIP.

Speaker 2: 32:33

Which which gives me access to certain stuff.

Speaker 3: 32:35

No, I was just saying, hey, this the OG respect them like, no matter what he say. Okay, it's like letting your other viewers like, okay, this is somebody special to him, or they got some type of connection. You know, saying like I made you a VIP, okay and I don't gotta announce it.

Speaker 2: 32:50

This is just in the chat.

Speaker 3: 32:52

It's a, it's an emblem next to your name, yep, so every time.

Speaker 4: 32:55

Every time you talk, it's gonna be on the side of your name. Every time you type something in, it'll be there.

Speaker 1: 33:00

You don't need anything. All you need is a relationship with the person to become a VIP.

Speaker 4: 33:07

I mean A relationship, yeah, but it is more than that. Because you have you can have a relationship with your whole chat, you know, because you speak to people every day, but it's more so. People that you are really close to or you know has basically held you down, you know, with streaming or looking out for you. A lot of that, a lot of the VIPs in my chat are people that I knew since I started and they're also people that come in there and they literally support heavy, and when I mean support heavy, they drop money, so they deserve VIPs.

Speaker 3: 33:40

If you drop the band of two bands in my chat, you gonna get Some type of badge in my chat.

Speaker 4: 33:46

Oh, immediately immediately.

Speaker 3: 33:50

Her sometimes. I don't know if you still doing V, for example, for her. Let's just say global women and drop two bands. She's gonna. She's gonna put him in the bio and said top donor and His name is gonna always be on her on her screen or in her bio on her page. So yes, are you still?

Speaker 4: 34:07

do that V I haven't done in a while but it is still up there, so people still do see.

Speaker 3: 34:12

You know the, the people who Right off the dome, who would be top True code breaker yeah, breakers yeah true code breaker.

Speaker 4: 34:20

That is my bestie.

Speaker 3: 34:22

Okay, I want to get too deep, but what's? What's the number? What's the number?

Speaker 4: 34:25

What you mean, the number, Right now what, what like?

Speaker 3: 34:30

what is that now what? But just just just a guess real quick.

Speaker 4: 34:33

I could buy a whole Lexus. Okay, never mind brand new.

Speaker 2: 34:38

Okay, never mind.

Speaker 1: 34:53

Something I feel like people not talking about, people like.

Speaker 4: 35:00

Oh God it does that happens to like there's people do see that you do Don't like. People donate large amounts of money or they get things for you and it has a Good um, you know, is good to see. And then it's also negative feedback on it too, sometimes, because the first thing people think and especially me being a female gamer content creator the first thing they think is, oh, you must have sexual relations with this person or oh, you must be given this person something to be dropping this type of money on you. And I'm just like what? Like, why does it have to be that, like you guys, people know nothing about the situations or the friendships you built. And this person, true code breaker, he has been with me before I even got partnered and everything like that. He's been there since. He's literally watched my daughter grow up to the point where she calls him uncle code, so Literally he's been there for the longest and it was never anything like that. Like, we are literally best friends. It's nothing more, nothing less. We look out for each other. I.

Speaker 1: 36:08

Could definitely see it as if I was a gamer and I was. If I was in your world as a gamer and I I I had a career where I made like Really good money and I also understand the gaming culture I could see where a lot of my money Would go to all these gamers who need things. I got it, I'm good and I also game, so I can see where there's people that's on there. That's genuinely. I just given off of the love of the, I guess the craft, the sport, the community, the Understanding, like I could see myself, like you know what.

Speaker 1: 36:52

I just want to splurge some fine girls, some ugly girls, some poor children, some Heartbroken, when some that's trying is just getting started but don't know what I do. I might just be on the Just throwing out money like boy, you, you don't need so much man, I'm like, well, I got it on doing anything else, but I beat my meeting. Just I get on the game and I'm on my computer in my chair. I'm like I might like I got them, I got the money, ain't going to the club, you ain't doing nothing else. And you, if you, if you in this world, and you are a person that do have money. I can see how you would get heavily invested into seeing other people's dreams and passions coming true and it all work out.

Speaker 3: 37:42

Yeah, yeah uh V explain how uh you had this. Uh, not just you, he was just going around. You already know what I'm talking about. He was just going around, just like what you just said. He was just going around and she just mentioned my name. I want to let you explain it. Just uh, could you explain that real quick? You? Know wait which is around mixer or the Twitter? I think I want to say mixer, and you used to play fortnight with him, but he would go around and just oh.

Speaker 4: 38:09

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think I think um, yeah, it was, it was. It was somebody who came in um to my stream and he would always like I would have goals up on my stream, on you know how much I need for something or how much I'm trying to make this day. He would come in every day and Clear my goal every time and then he would ask me like, oh, you know, do you know people, you know who's in need or need some stuff or streaming stuff or whatever? And I was just like, oh yeah, and I knew that at that time drago needed a new gaming chair and I was like, all right, I got somebody for you. And as soon as I said that, I gave him the link, we went in there. He gave him the money for the for the chair. He donated it to him.

Speaker 3: 38:51

Not that one that this is I've. So I've learned again through vicious. Okay, um, okay that. So the first chair I got, I, I bought the chair. I did put a dono bar up, but I was like you know, I really need this chair. Forget it for content. I'm gonna try to record, put it together. It was a cheap chair from amazon but I had a dono bar.

Speaker 3: 39:09

When we say don't know bar is a bar on your screen and it's a percentage of how close you are to get that item that you have in that box. Okay, so I'm gaming, I'll have him fun, don't know nothing and I have custom sounds. Boom, he thought it was 150. Uh, I think. I think he said it was. I think it was closer 150. So he dropped 150. He's oh, it ain't filled up yet. Boom, he dropped another one. So back to back. He filled up my goal instantly and I'm like oh, oh, who's this, who's this? And then V was like uh, um, uh, congrats, drego. Um, she told me whatever it was in the chat, but I was going crazy because it was my first time. My bar just got filled up, you know, instantly. Yeah, so right there, live on the screen. I don't care if my address is showing I bought. I showed that I used the money to buy the chair. All right, I need that. Show that the money's going back to the stream.

Speaker 2: 40:00

No, that's love. Yeah, that's what's up again.

Speaker 3: 40:03

Appreciate it V.

Speaker 2: 40:05

Yeah, look at that, that's a, that's a good community, that's another thing.

Speaker 3: 40:09

That's another thing when it comes to the community. Um, you can, it's kind of easy to show love, so, like if she had, like, uh, a 5,000 people on her channel again, ninja probably has 20,000, and when he hosts you, all of them comes to your channel, which how she was explained earlier, it broke her channel, it broke her bot, so it was too much for her, her bot to handle.

Speaker 1: 40:29

Yeah, I had. I I don't know where either. I read it. I was looking at something um similar in this field, where they explained that the memory that's stored on heart drives and um, everything is physical, like we don't, we don't think of, like our phones and information, the picture, the pictures and the data and everything. We don't think of it as physical, but from a, I want to say from the Atomic level, like the at down to the smallest atoms of it, there's actually weight to it, so you can carry weight In density within the usage.

Speaker 1: 41:17

So I and I discovered this um studying some other stuff, but when she said that that it crashed it out in my mind. I literally saw the weight of everybody else else, everybody else's, everyone else's um I want to save either feed or information, just posting, hitting her computer and the computer likes, like it's, it's physical, yeah, it's like it's wild when you think of it like that, when you, when you trying to understand what we, we can't necessarily see actually being um Impressed upon, right, and that's, that's kind of, that's kind of crazy when you think about it.

Speaker 2: 42:03

That's dope. Now I saw something cool like I. Like I say I'm in the musician world one time Drago went live on twitch and um. I was just in there watching him. I think he used baby making a beat and and creating what he created in um. As I'm, I'm tuning in, I'm in the chat, I see what's going on and then I what you call it, don't know.

Speaker 3: 42:20

Yeah, okay.

Speaker 2: 42:21

So I saw the don't know button and I'm like, how does this work? I just was curious, right. So I I sent him a donation and then it was like he I don't know if he gets all hurt, but he looked surprised and he like, oh, and then he had like a theme song, I guess per donation, whether it's a 20, a 50, a hundred. Do you have something similar for when you get donations? Do you have themes, songs or celebrations? You do.

Speaker 4: 42:46

Well, right now I'm kind of revamping my stream, so I kind of took that off. But when I did, yeah, I had, I had stuff for Subs, donations. But with the donations, um, I had it at a point where all you had to do was donate like at least a dollar and A dollar or more, and if you donated you get, you got to write a message with it so that it'll the bot will read the message out loud on your stream. And I kind of have to turn that off because people was taking advantage of it. So I had to bump up the amount in order for, you know, music and stuff to play and, um, you know, bring them to able to write stuff while they send the money, because it's a the trolling even even if it's good trolling, it still happens.

Speaker 2: 43:32

Okay, okay. Yeah, that's dope. I like that feature. Now, how often do you guys collab in the gaming world? Is there such a thing as collab where we both when you guys are playing each other? But how does that work as far as on the streaming side? Is there a way for you guys to share the revenue or is it individually based?

Speaker 4: 43:51

Definitely individually based individually based.

Speaker 4: 43:53

Yes, it's individually based Um, which, which is why a lot of times, when people do co-streams and stuff like that, you um, some places you do see the Same, like how we're doing it, like this or another person is doing their own stream with their own chat. I'm doing my own stream with my own chat, and then we'll tell the you know the the chat, like, oh, you know my chat. I'll be like hey, go follow this person. I'm playing with them right now. Go show them some love. You know, because this, because sometimes they'll hear them in the game and they're like who's that? Are they a streamer too? You know, like, what's their, what's their at? And then I'll give them their at and then they'll go over there. There they go, they gained a view, they gained a follow and possibly some more revenue. You know, you never know.

Speaker 2: 44:31

Hey, I'm with you.

Speaker 3: 44:32

Uh, explain partnership with the uh sites of the um, because that's another thing that you can also gain, also a partnership, and you get a percentage now and all of that. So, uh, can you explain a little bit on that?

Speaker 4: 44:44

Well, I've been partnered with a bunch of Company so they all kind of they run differently, but, um, yeah, you have to meet certain goals and stuff in order to become partnered and when you become partnered you basically Get like extra stuff, like you get to get free merch. Sometimes they invite you to certain um things for vip's that you can get. They don't. Some places, some you know places, do kind of fly you out, but a lot of the times it does come out of our, of our pockets and we get to go to places and kind of just see, see stuff that not everybody else Can see, and especially going to like gaming conventions. We could go to gaming conventions and then if you're a partner, they have specific parties for you, they have separate sections for you where you get treated like royalty Okay, and you just it, it's, it's nice.

Speaker 3: 45:37

You know, and then you huh you, you have uh affiliations, and let's talk, don't forget sponsorships that too.

Speaker 4: 45:44

Yeah, sponsorships, affiliates and they're all. They're all different, like all of the different um affiliates, um, I can't.

Speaker 2: 45:52

I'd, yeah, I can't really explain the affiliate chip thing because I feel like it's you know it's like a feel this is like a commission, like when you get like, let's say, you, what a company, is it the same, you get a personal link and you you can share it and you get a commission from that, or is like a different kind of affiliate?

Speaker 4: 46:10

No, I think affiliate I feel like it's like it's a stepping stone to get into your partnership. Basically, you know, it's literally a step or so. So once you hit affiliate, it's like all right, it's like you're in but you're the steps, you're the stepchild.

Speaker 3: 46:25

That's how I feel like it is. We see you, but you the stepchild, so we're gonna feed the partners first and we see you working over there. That's, that's what I feel like affiliate is.

Speaker 2: 46:36

So it's like a close up, but it's not. It's like a close up and in the gaming world it's different. Like it's like a close. I hear you.

Speaker 3: 46:42

I will say, hey, we will, we'll give you, we'll give you a piece of the pie, but they, they're gonna party. It's like you, can you? Yeah, it's the close up. It's kind of like a slap in the face a little bit to me.

Speaker 2: 47:00

It sounds like a step towards in the right direction. It is.

Speaker 4: 47:02

It is a step. It is a step in the right direction. But, um, yes, as as for people you know who have not reached partnership, like see me, I've been streaming on twitch for years now and I think when I finally Took it seriously and and got off of facebook because I was also so streaming on facebook and I am also partnered with them I took it seriously for a month and I got partnered. Like I just wasn't really streaming nowhere else really much. I was putting all my time into that. I was streaming on tiktok and twitch at the same time and people from tiktok wanted to see my twitch so they were going over to my twitch and I didn't want to watch me on tiktok, so it was just like it. Any. There's a bunch of places that can, you know, bring up any of yours where you do your socials or or your gaming ad or content creation. You can pull them from other places and they could go to where you mainly stream or what you mainly do.

Speaker 3: 48:01

So I'm uh, I'm gonna give an example what we got. You see how we use the whatsapp as a hub. Like you have a hub on the whatsapp, yeah. Yeah, the discord is our hub and it's like the main. Like you can't really fuck up in there because you really can be you behind the cameras and you can set different sections where you have 18 plus. When I say 18 plus, I mean mature content only. Anything goes in there. It warns you before you go in there. Okay.

Speaker 1: 48:34

What's happening?

Speaker 3: 48:38

Okay, v explain your discord. I know yours is not like that, I'm just saying this you know this others?

Speaker 4: 48:42

No, mine's ain't like that because if it was, it'd be gone. Trust me, I'd be kicked off a discord in a second because my mouth is reckless. But, um, yes, there are like different channels in discord where you can set it to. You know a section for a specific game, like how I have minds. I have a section for just chatting where everybody could talk and chat. I have a section where people could post selfies and we could basically see who we're talking to. You know, we know who you are, um, voice chats. I also do movie nights every thursdays and there's sections like that where people come and they watch movies and as we watch in it, instead of them talking, they type as the movies going on. You know we could speak and stuff we could have our cameras on while we do it. I have vip sections where only people who have vip roles can see that section and nobody else can Like it's. It's so much stuff that you can do On there.

Speaker 1: 49:35

Oh, this is so. You watch movie, I watch movies together.

Speaker 4: 49:39

Yes, I watch movies with my community, like see. Today I was supposed to do movie night but you know I guess. Thanks, dude, but yes, um.

Speaker 2: 49:47

Oh, we definitely definitely.

Speaker 4: 49:48

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 49:51

So I I'm going back to some things we talked about on the other episode. This can definitely be intimidating, if you would, if you date in a person in the traditional world I want to call it and there's someone in this virtual world and I and I ain't trying to sound like a snitching nothing, but y'all got a lot of stuff going on and look, it's what, what this is, 2023.

Speaker 1: 50:21

Yeah it's 2023. I just learned All about all of this just now in this one episode and I'm like hold up the people that's tripping about Having partners. That's in this world. They're not tripping Because y'all got a whole nother world going on. Y'all watching movies, y'all going on dates, y'all Y'all watching each other, kids grow up, y'all Language, headphones, chairs, y'all buying. Like what's happening? I'm gonna be, I'm jealous and I ain't even in this situation I might run. It's almost Going on y'all not letting us in the in the terrestrial world know about.

Speaker 3: 51:13

Trust it. It's like. It's like the people that don't want to know. We like, oh okay, you one of those and we just keep moving, but don't say don't go out like I don't know.

Speaker 4: 51:28

Watching movies. No, okay, you can't. You can't say that you can't because there there are people like yes, as for me, I have a big community, so I try, that's my way. When movies, it's a bunch of people, it's not just me and one specific person, it's a lot of us women, men, all together, like we've been in a room, we'll watch movies and stuff, and that gives them more of a time to have more of a personal connection with me, rather than it being on stream. On stream, I'm gaming, I'm worried about my game and I'm worried about everybody in the chat.

Speaker 4: 52:02

When it comes to them coming to my Discord, we watch in movies and stuff like that. We watch movies. After the movies done, what do we do? We sit there, we conversate, we get to learn about each other. They actually get to speak to me, you know, verbally. They get to speak to me because they can't do that while I'm streaming. They can't just pull me aside and be like oh V, you know how you do this, how you do that or whatever, whatever.

Speaker 4: 52:23

When it comes to that, and even without watching movies and stuff, watching movies is cool, I do that, you know. So everybody can come together. But there are times like yeah, I just bring them in and I'm like if y'all want to hang out, come hang out. And it just gives them time To speak to me and be able to talk without me gaming and having other distractions when they're trying to Ask me a question. So it's not like we're doing anything crazy.

Speaker 4: 52:45

And this is why I said like I would rather be with somebody who Is in the gaming community and understand it, because it's really hard to explain it. So people who don't know, because in their head is just like see how you reacted, it's like what the fuck are you doing? Like no, it's this nothing crazy. Like I ain't gonna lie. The other people may be doing some crazy Shit. I'm not one of them, but as for this, I'm all about my community. Like they put so much like Time into my stuff. They don't. They donate, they support, they give. Like I tell you, y'all know how much this chair cost.

Speaker 2: 53:18

I'm sitting in, please, I'll watch out again, how much give me a guess? Let me take a look.

Speaker 3: 53:25

How about you get up and turn the chair a little bit for?

Speaker 2: 53:28

oh yes, I mean, I'm a guest 800 and it looked like it's perfect for the spine. I'm gonna throw 750.

Speaker 3: 53:41

This price is right, baby.

Speaker 2: 53:43

I'm gonna say 1200. Wait, wait, wait, wait 750.

Speaker 1: 53:47

I'm gonna say 600. You got 600.

Speaker 4: 53:51

Yeah, all wrong?

Speaker 3: 53:52

Oh, don't say so.

Speaker 4: 53:54

This chair was 1700. What Whoa.

Speaker 3: 53:58

What I'm gonna be, that thing that'll be fucking me. I'm sorry that thing, I don't want.

Speaker 1: 54:07

You know what he doing in the private tax. You know what he doing in the private tax. Oh my God, I don't want to know what kind of joy. Let's pause real quick. Let's pause, let's see where it's burning.

Speaker 2: 54:22

I'm so quick.

Speaker 4: 54:23

Listen.

Speaker 2: 54:26

I'm gonna be happy you know what I'm doing.

Speaker 3: 54:30

I'm gonna be happy, I'm going to be happy. Blame it on Bella.

Speaker 1: 54:35

Let's pause. You know what I mean. We live. I'm not a VIP member in his chat.

Speaker 2: 54:44

Damn, that's an expensive chair. I mean, what are the features in the chair we don't know about? Does it warm you?

Speaker 1: 54:50

up. What do we do?

Speaker 4: 54:54

She's big Okay so I, I'm still partnered with a chair company, um, and I felt like the chairs are. I'm gonna tell you one thing the race of chairs are beautiful, like. They look good, they look really nice, very like, trendy for your stream, you know, having colors, you know behind you and all this other, which is why I'll use these as colors. I don't use the chairs anymore, but, um, I've been sitting in those chairs and when I tell you my back, it can't take it after a while, like after a while, it can not, like it's not for me. So when I got this chair, like I said the same thing.

Speaker 4: 55:28

I don't know why the hell this shit is so expensive, but when I sat in it, like the there's, like it don't look, like it has no cushion or nothing like that's. That's why it was scary for me. But when I sat in it, like my butt feels fine, it's, it's molding properly to the chair and as you see how you said the those, it looked like a little spine thing. You can sit back. It like shapes your the curve of your back, if you have a curve or whatever, like it does all of that. You can like Open, like separate, go up down, do all of this, and there's a lot of chairs that don't do that.

Speaker 4: 56:01

You can't like pull them closer or push them apart. You know you have to do like it's only the up and down feature. But this I love that, like I can lean my chair back. There's other stuff too, like even the front, like it goes forward where, if your legs are longer, and stuff which I don't use because I'm sure my feet are dangling right now. But um, yeah, I have. I have a foot stroller.

Speaker 3: 56:24

I'm gonna turn the corner just a little bit, right. So this was this was on the last kind of episode that we were Doing about the gaming, right? Eric brought up a good Good topic it was. It was about love language, right? So hold on before we continue. What is your love language? I know people have multiple. What is your love language? What were your love?

Speaker 4: 56:45

languages. Minds is touching words of affirmation.

Speaker 3: 56:49

Okay, all right now. Last episode I'm I want to remember it very well the love language was Look, can love languages be? Can we have bad love languages like?

Speaker 1: 57:08

Not bad, but we should include some of the negative love languages, because it would offer more clarity Versus then, because some of us do have negative love language what?

Speaker 2: 57:18

but how do you even know if it's next? I mean, it might be negative, but it might well exactly.

Speaker 1: 57:25

But if I'm, if I'm a Suffocator, like I know, my love language, you hear, that thing is to suffocate you, like I need to be Ah, clung, yeah, yeah. So to me that that may not be a problem, but it may be honest. But if that's not included in the love languages then it would kind of be unfair for somebody who would need what would. It would be necessary to know that. So I'm looking at suffocation as a beautiful thing, but I might not like it. Yeah, you might hate, yeah.

Speaker 2: 58:04

So the question, what I remember, what you said, you said, is, with draw, he said there you go. That might be something so like if you withdraw, you go to gaming. Is that possibly a love language? And we, we kind of was just curious, curious if it could be the opposite, like withdraw, could that be a love language?

Speaker 3: 58:21

That's exactly what it was. Thank you for clearing that up for me, no problem.

Speaker 4: 58:25

Wait. So you mean like withdraw like?

Speaker 3: 58:27

I'm gonna give you one fuss, cuz we're gamers, right? Okay, you know, let's just say you're man, he's, he could be a gamer. But you get that, you get that affirmation from being on the game and just sitting and being on the discord, because You're away from your, your love, your loved one. But you need that away. You need to get away to really, you know, recharge yourself and then come back to your loved one. You understand, like um again, how Global just said it. I'm trying to get it out, but I can't how you withdraw.

Speaker 1: 59:01

A game might need to withdraw. You might need at time, right away. Or, and I'm just saying game, about musicians or people like some people. Their love language is amplified by them being able to To withdraw right like step away from the confinements of the love that's with that person, person so they can like either miss them or you know.

Speaker 4: 59:25

Don't do it.

Speaker 1: 59:26

Have things of their self, go ahead. We don't, can, we don't. That's not listed as a love language, right, and it might be something that's helpful, useful and something to understand in language of love. There we go.

Speaker 4: 59:40

Yeah it what he said about the missing them like that. That's one thing. When you have people who are like so clingy which that that could be there is their love language. They're like they want to be on top of you, which is good because you know that this person really loves you. But there's times it's like you want to, you want to have your space to do your own thing, you know, and there are times where some your, your partner, won't understand that. It's more like damn, are you sick of me? You tired of me, and stuff like that.

Speaker 4: 1:00:06

No, I just want to do my own things, sometimes like it's not like I'll be back later, like just we go, we go sleep together, just just let me do my thing. That's that's how you know. I mean I understood that because that's that's happened to me before, where it was like I would stay up all night and that was my fun and getting away, and then I'd come back to bed and he was sleep and he's like well, I was waiting for you and I'm just like I mean I was, I was doing something, you, you was doing your thing. But just because you finished doing your thing, I mean I'm gonna finish doing my thing because you finished doing your thing. You was doing yours too. And I say none about it, you know. So it's more so like, yeah, you, you gotta, it's okay to have your space, because when you have your space, you it do give you the opportunity To miss, you know, your partner and I think the same. I mean I don't want to get into the sex thing, but we gonna go there.

Speaker 4: 1:01:02

There are a lot of. There are a lot of. There are. There are people in relationships who are very sexually active, and I know, as for me, I'm one of those people like, hey, sex is cool, I'm good with sex, but when it's something that consistent, like if we're fucking like three times a day with no break, it's not gonna make me crave you. I just had you like five minutes ago. So there are people who feel like, if you don't, if you're not giving that same energy the next day, it's like oh, you're not into me, no more, you don't love me. And this isn't that like. No, like when you give me time, you gonna see I'ma turn into a nasty little thing. Just give me some time, like you. Just you're not giving me time. So I feel like that's the same thing as having space for yourself. Like people don't understand that.

Speaker 4: 1:01:49

But, as I said, that's just me. I know it doesn't work for everybody else like that, but as for me, I'ma be this, i'ma be misled by the love language.

Speaker 1: 1:02:00

When someone say they love languages, touch, and I'm trying to touch you all the time, and then you're like no, no, no, no, I'm like hold up you. You said Then it's like no, but I also have a little bit of withdrawal. So I need my space alone, areas, things within my um, my personal, involved in my feedback loop of love that I need. That Requires me to be away from you. And this is what we said on episode, like sometimes a person need to have Nothing to do with who they're sharing a love with, and you kind of got to step away. And then and and dreggo initiated when he, when he started talking about the gaming, because we didn't do a lot of episodes on Um, the area he specialized in, and that's when I was like whoa, whoa, a light bulb went off. I'm like Hold up, there's something else in it.

Speaker 1: 1:02:55

Then that's how we went into the love languages, because we was um, we end up taking into consideration that it's another way to love someone outside of just the beautiful parts of the love language. I only want to say beautiful, the um, uh, the arrogant thing, the arrogant love languages, like the stuff that we just think is the fantasy. Oh, love, gifts, touch, words. We sent all the beautiful stuff, but that ain't how we language in in reality. Sometimes our language consists of things that might, um be considered a negative. That actually amplifies the positive More. And I was like and that was a eureka moment for me and I was like, man, we missing so much. And then I we all went back after that and started doing our own personal Homework.

Speaker 1: 1:03:56

Yeah, you know, we like man. We even talked off camera about it, that's how much it lingered on was like man. That's actually something that is really needed. That's tough, but it ain't. It ain't. It's not being expressed, but it would help so much just to have that conversation in those Honesties available mm-hmm, um, and I got one for you too.

Speaker 2: 1:04:21

As far as family members and maybe not everybody might understand the gaming world of they think you're just wasting time or you just playing on the internet, is there certain family members as you, as you pursue this, you, you, probably the relationship Isn't the same because they didn't understand it or probably support you from the beginning.

Speaker 4: 1:04:39

Actually, no, I haven't. I haven't had that, at least with family members. I know my dad. If him, he always tells like my community, like yeah, better Thank me, like he'll be like y'all better Thank me.

Speaker 4: 1:04:54

Because it wasn't for me, because he, he's very over protective when I was younger and he kept us in the house and when we were kept in the house he made sure we had stuff to do and the stuff to do was gaming and if it wasn't gaming, he would always buy us like all the new stuff that would come out when it whether it's like bikes or electric bikes or something Like that, and we'd be riding them and stuff like that he did. He just didn't like us being out in the street. So gaming is what kept me inside and probably you know as much as I hated it back then not being able to live my life Younger. I kind of thank my dad because a lot of the people that I either hung out with or just Knowing a lot of kids growing up in New York in general, they are not doing good. They're not so. As for me, even though I stayed in the house and gamed, I was Having fun and do us.

Speaker 3: 1:05:41

Her mom used to be our ass on the game called gives the work. I'm sorry, here's my girl and her mom be ass on the damn. Yeah, they're new yorkers talking to the top notch level. Bro, like what the like? Who's that he's like? Oh, I'm sorry, I forgive my mom, your mom, and they understand kicking ass, I'm sorry.

Speaker 4: 1:06:03

I don't know. No, it's, it's true, that's that, that's. It's been so long I even forgot. But yes, my mom used to get down in the games with me, so she was with visits was part of our squad and her mom had her own squad.

Speaker 1: 1:06:17

Like the mommy she had her own team. Like no, not a mommy squad.

Speaker 4: 1:06:21

No, it was just her own people guys it was. It was guys was like see for me when I was, when I was gaming with them, I was the only female in their group.

Speaker 3: 1:06:29

She was the first lady at TFK. How about we say that that?

Speaker 4: 1:06:33

yeah, yeah, we had like a little clan and I was the first girl to join that clan.

Speaker 4: 1:06:38

And as for my mom, she also had a lot of like dude friends, like it was back then and even kind of now a little bit is. It was really hard to Make friends with female gamers because in the, the gaming world, these women just love attention. You know, like I've dealt with it growing up and being on the game, it's like if you, if you jump into a room with a bunch of men who are your friends, and then there's a girl in there, if the attention is not on them, it's the attitude, it's the the just, just everything, just the negative energy that comes with it, because they want to be the center of attention. So, yeah, we even till this day now like, yeah, I've got more female friends, which I thank God. You know it's different now, but back then it was just, I played with a lot of guys and I was just part of the guys, quiet, like it was just part of it, but I enjoyed it, I didn't, I didn't care, because I loved gaming with them, you know.

Speaker 3: 1:07:33

Don't it felt.

Speaker 4: 1:07:33

It felt like a family, like we would get everybody to go to work me. I come from school, we all in a game playing together, we playing all the time, and it was just. It was nice. I actually missed those days. I was talking about that recently, like back then it was. It was really.

Speaker 3: 1:07:49

No, just being kids, no adult yeah yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:07:53

Yeah the time. Where do you see the future of Gaming going?

Speaker 4: 1:08:02

To be honest, I mean I know I ain't gonna get to ninja status, but I mean I ain't gonna. I ain't gonna say I can't either, but I'm hoping you know to to be out there and, you know, show people the love that I have for gaming and for the ones who are also gamers and want to, you know, going to the same path. I want them to know that they can, you know they can do it, because I didn't believe in myself. I didn't believe that I can, you know, get to where I was and just by everybody coming in and showing me the love you know, that I didn't think that I can see so quickly.

Speaker 4: 1:08:36

Yeah it just told me. I was just like, well, damn, maybe, maybe I can do this. You know I wasn't trying to do this Professionally or, you know, take this seriously. But once I saw how I went, I gave it a try, even though there there are there has been certain people you know who think like, oh, like, this is not gonna get anywhere. You know you're not gonna make any money, you're not gonna make a living, because you know the income is like a up and down thing. You don't know what you're gonna make. You know every month, because you know it's. It's not like a set in stone thing. Unless you get contracts with companies which I've gotten a few of those you know where they'll pay you like every month the same amount, along with extra stuff, whatever you know goes into it. But yeah, I'm just happy now that I've showed people that yeah, you doubted me. Now look where the fuck I am.

Speaker 1: 1:09:25

What's your zodiac sign?

Speaker 4: 1:09:27

I'm a Gemina.

Speaker 1: 1:09:28

What's your favorite number?

Speaker 4: 1:09:30

13?.

Speaker 1: 1:09:31

What's your favorite color?

Speaker 4: 1:09:32

green.

Speaker 1: 1:09:34

All right, next year you're gonna be biggest. You're gonna be biggest ninja. Whoa we gonna talk to some people.

Speaker 4: 1:09:49

She's happy, great, make some damn money.

Speaker 3: 1:09:51

I mean Jim and I agree, I know you, I know you have to take off soon, but I got. I got a question, okay go ahead. I got one question. I just want you to break the ice, cuz I know it's gonna be out there. It's exposure. I want to expose this real quick. Oh, please, please, just just say it, and I know I'm hoping you agree. It is easier for women when it comes to content, creating the men.

Speaker 4: 1:10:15

Yes, absolutely, thank you, Thank you Absolutely and then it's.

Speaker 2: 1:10:20

I feel like that's too silent now. Do you think it's because the looks or the winning, like Drago said, it's important to be winning? How important is the winning? Or do you think it matters if I'm winning or losing? I just look good, my setups nice. You know, I'm gonna have it made.

Speaker 4: 1:10:34

Please say it right to be honest. I think, when it comes to men, you need to be good at the game. You need to be, good at something.

Speaker 4: 1:10:41

When it comes to women I was talking to somebody about, someone said I forgot what her name is, but they, pretty privilege is a thing, that's a thing you know. Pretty privilege is the thing and you either looking good and I and I tell a lot of female this too there's some girls who I see play the game. They don't know what the fuck they're doing, but they making loads of money why?

Speaker 3: 1:11:05

right.

Speaker 4: 1:11:06

Look you, or a lot of the times women do use online if they're their assets to Pull it in, which, listen, I'm not gonna do you boo. If you got it, do it, you know. But I'm just saying, yes, it is is definitely easier, especially to like a lot of guys coming. They're like, oh you only you know this is only happening for you cuz you got boobs. I mean, they don't say that to me because I don't have any. But as for the other women who do have cleavage and it's out there is just like damn cuz. I know when I go and I look I'm looking like I want to see too.

Speaker 2: 1:11:42

Yeah.

Speaker 4: 1:11:42

Oh yeah, by the way, yes, I am bisexual, so I do look at women, but yeah, I also. I also go and I look at the same shit that men look at and see why they drop money on them, even if they not doing shit else. In that game they're not winning, they're not trying to win, they're literally just holding a controller, looking cute, pretty much.

Speaker 3: 1:12:02

So so, fellas, exactly that screen was she sitting at? No gaming, they're just just chatting like what we're doing and making more money than all of us in this room combined, just sitting there just talking. So when she said being pretty is is a privilege, yeah, it's 100,000 percent therapeutic stuff.

Speaker 1: 1:12:23

Yeah, I could, I could get a high. We know people that go in and that get a high just off of going to strip club for money, about to say like, well, I'm not gonna say for nothing, but you, you getting something from it.

Speaker 4: 1:12:36

Yeah yeah, see. No, the fact that you said that too. There are people who do come into my stream and they're like I have money and I'm not doing shit with it. I need to do something with it. So I'm dropping it on you pretty much like people say that, like they literally say that and they'll be like I know you do this full-time here, here's to support you. I'm not doing shit with, I'm just making money. Like I'm like and I'm like I'm gonna stop you. I got bills to pay.

Speaker 1: 1:13:02

Yeah, I know broke, people do it.

Speaker 4: 1:13:04

Yeah, that too, that, but see it there also. Also there's a. There's a lot of times where broke people do it, or or people with money do it, and a lot of the times when it comes to content creation, a lot of people donate or they give money in order to be Noticed or seen or always be talked about by the streamer, because I know I've done it where it's like I have a person who donates a lot and consistently donates, and every time they come in is just like you know, like yo like what's up and they give you money, you put them out there and stuff like that. Their names is at the top of your screen, like they like shit, like that too. They like to be known as I dropped this amount of money in this chat. You know that they do stuff for that reasons too.

Speaker 3: 1:13:44

But you and you do have the ones that that you say hi, and they give it to you and they just and then they leave. Yep, yep, mm-hmm yeah and then on top of that you have they. They can do it. I can't even say the word. I'm not a nominal anonymously. Yeah, you get those two and you don't know who is from, and they just keep moving, wow.

Speaker 2: 1:14:07

Wow. So, v, I know you, I know you got a lot to do and we, we, we interfere with what was the movie night. It would have been a movie night, but I got one more question too, like is there anything you would do over if you had to do over anything?

Speaker 4: 1:14:20

No, I would do it exactly the way I've done it, because I feel like I did it the proper way. I didn't do it the way people wanted me to do it. I did it with me being authentic and Not trying to sit here and do what everyone else is doing. I did stuff for me and if you didn't like what I did for me, then you, I can't work with you. I'm sorry, because I would never change for nobody.

Speaker 3: 1:14:47

And gaming turn guys terms is it's GG. I know what GG means. Yep.

Speaker 4: 1:14:52

GG.

Speaker 3: 1:14:53

Let him know what GG is.

Speaker 4: 1:15:02

Yeah, so we say that outside of gaming too. Now, like when you do something like, oh, gigi's, I cuz. I say Gigi's a people, be like. What the fuck is that like? What are you talking?

Speaker 3: 1:15:09

about Somebody do something I'm not gonna. Yeah, gigi, my bad. Yeah, I bet. So, like I bet, are we in the night of Gigi, you know? Mm-hmm, yeah, yeah, I appreciate you, man. Thank you very much, see. I know you are a busy person, seriously, and you always been 100 with me since the start. I'm glad you joined again. I know I was gonna be able to get you. I was like now fuck.

Speaker 4: 1:15:39

Now this, not honestly. This was fun. This is my first podcast that I did, to be honest, so yeah and I know you guys honestly, I've gotten people asked me a lot to be on podcast.

Speaker 4: 1:15:50

But it's like I don't, I don't know a lot of people and I don't know what their topics of discussion, and I think I pulled into this one because I'd known Drago for so long over a decade now when it's like I'm like, okay, he ain't gonna just pull me into some crazy shit, you know, just let me know, like what's being said and what you know. You guys are gonna be asking me and I was pretty cool with it, but you guys are definitely the first podcast I've ever taken, so I feel most Interview.

Speaker 2: 1:16:18

So next, and when she's super big, we could double back.

Speaker 3: 1:16:25

Double back and expose us, baby, you know.

Speaker 4: 1:16:28

Look, I'm honestly, if you guys come up with any other topics down the line that I could probably a part of, I'm down because, like I like this is actually pretty cool because I wanted to do this with my people too. We might end up doing something like this at some point, but it's always good to have conversation, get other people's perspectives of things like I love that.

Speaker 2: 1:16:46

Yes, no, thank you, and our listeners, you know, we just been trying to touch on different topics and it's good because the gaming world, like I said, drago, sparked the fire and I think we're gonna be able to answer a lot of questions. So just thank you for your time and we greatly appreciate all the advice she gave us today.

Speaker 3: 1:17:02

Yeah, that was an episode exposure. Yes, yes, 13.

Speaker 2: 1:17:06

Right green to them, to exposure and we are.

Speaker 3: 1:17:12

Listen, no real talk. Hey, I'm gonna go by a bottle. No, I need the blue one. No, no.

Speaker 4: 1:17:17

Wait, are y'all done like that's? That was it right you drinking? Wait, my handles. Oh well, shoot. Well, if y'all want to follow me, my name is miss vicious everywhere, and that's with Z's mz V. I see I owe you ZZ and you can find me anywhere on all platforms. Type in that same name and I'm gonna pop up.

Speaker 3: 1:17:45

Appreciate you.

Speaker 4: 1:17:46

Yes, now we good yeah, but what the fuck are you drinking?

Speaker 3: 1:17:50

What's that bottle? Yeah.

Speaker 4: 1:17:55

Is that? Is that a champagne?

Speaker 3: 1:17:57

Uh-huh V. I'm fucking with it and I know you drink. You put me on us.

Speaker 4: 1:18:02

I have a wine fridge right here.

Speaker 3: 1:18:04

Wow, you got a fridge now.

Speaker 4: 1:18:06

It's. Look, it's right here, like it's literally. I have a whole wine fridge and it has like a different rose. They bought that for me too.

Speaker 1: 1:18:13

You pull out no bottle on this.

Speaker 4: 1:18:15

Now, I did it because if I have to drive, so I'm not doing movie night? Yeah, I'm not, do we? I do a night skating with my people, so I'm about to go. Nice, do some skating? Quads, quads, um, I don't know the blade.

Speaker 4: 1:18:32

No, I did. I was doing quads but code my friend who I was just talking about, he just bought me some rollerblades today. So now I'm gonna use those when I go. So now I have both. I can kind of switch them out when I want to. But I've started on Rollerblades when I was skating, since I was younger. But I wanted to learn how to do the quads because I want to dance in them. I actually want to know, you know that what I actually I love the involvement man, I love what you involved into.

Speaker 3: 1:18:56

I was worried at first but then I look I had to come back to pay attention. I was like, yeah, we got it, you won.

Speaker 4: 1:19:01

Yeah, no, no, I'm not gonna be one of them. Yeah, I ain't turn into them motherfuckers and I know the motherfuckers you talking about.

Speaker 3: 1:19:07

You don't need to. You do it. I'm ghosting your ass.

Speaker 4: 1:19:14

No, no, no, no, okay, like even I even have a. You know I have a OF, yeah right, but you know I don't do none of that extra shit. That's, that's not me.

Speaker 4: 1:19:24

But my man pull them in, no but listen to me when I tell you that's the one. Y'all says something about the, the being a woman and a Conter crater. Like I said, the pretty privilege is the thing I get paid off. A dumb shit, like shit, like Like. You see how he says some people come in, they drop money on you and they leave. This one dude came into my stream, he goes, he showed me the bottom of your feet and wiggle your toes. I did that. He said thank you, drop the hundred dollars and left.

Speaker 1: 1:19:59

That's something I do.

Speaker 4: 1:20:00

I'd be like can you slap your kneecap three times, then sickie thing knows if you, if you go drop some money, they gonna do it, and that's what I said. Like right now, like I do have a OF, I don't do no type of nudity whatsoever. You don't see nothing on there that you will not see on a beach. But see me, in general, I don't post those type of photos on Instagram at all. I don't post nothing in me in that. So it's like in their mind they're like oh, I've never seen her in that.

Speaker 1: 1:20:28

I'm gonna go look, you know, and when I tell you money been flowing in mm-hmm is there any Warnings that you would give to women as wanting to get into the game world, in case there is any Male predators out there?

Speaker 4: 1:20:47

Oh God, yeah like you have some in your DMs.

Speaker 4: 1:20:49

In the wild life, yeah, no there are some and I like, even now, like feet. There's there's a lot of cases where women are getting killed, like content creators, because of it's it's bad. Like I, I always tell people who are with me if you're with me and because I do have a large following on different platforms, like I have a good chunk of people on different platforms and I've met people out here that Like, have friends on their Instagram and when they post with me, they'll be like, oh shit, that's vicious. I watch her and I'm just like, oh, you see, you can. When you post anything with me, do not post locations, don't post any of that, because people are weird, men are weird, like they're so weird and people like.

Speaker 4: 1:21:38

There was another case recently where A guy was trying to. You know he wanted a relationship with one of the concert creators who was a. She was on Instagram and she didn't want anything like that. She just wanted to be friends with him and she went to a concert, put the location of the concert of where she was at. He went, he found her, he kidnapped her, he beheaded her and then posted her dead Pictures in her discord to hold her whole community to let them see that he did it because she didn't want to be with him.

Speaker 3: 1:22:08

So you delay your post, do you delay?

Speaker 4: 1:22:10

Yep, I don't I don't.

Speaker 4: 1:22:12

Do it right there, nope I always, if I record something like see, even now, like when I go to the skating rink, I'll always record it, save it. When I get home then I post it. I don't post anything and then I anybody who I'm with I'm very like serious with that shit. I'd like do not post anything with me in it, because it's not just for my safety, it's also for yours, because they might know why. They know who I am. But you guys are with me. That don't mean y'all motherfuckers is safe, right. So that's all. I just be like. You know, keep that shit to keep it to a minimum. If you're gonna post on, either post it later, or if you want to post your stuff, you could post where you at, with your location. Just make sure I am nowhere in the video or pictures when you do it. You know, cuz that shit is. It's scary, right, it's a scary situation.

Speaker 3: 1:22:58

We don't handle your business.

Speaker 4: 1:22:59

Yeah, I got my fucking phone.

Speaker 2: 1:23:01

Listen, have a good time. We we thank you.

Speaker 4: 1:23:05

All right, you guys.

Speaker 2: 1:23:05

Thanks for having me anytime Bye.

Speaker 3: 1:23:08

Bye.