Xposure Podcast
More than a Podcast, it's a Movement! Xposure is the latest platform to shed light on all things “South Florida” and beyond. What started as an outlet for local musical talent, has grown into a universal stage for musicians, producers, marketing executives, small businesses and entrepreneurs from various industries. Each episode provides its listeners with a behind the scenes glimpse into the lives of average people making exceptional contributions to their communities, or significant advancements within their trade. Watch as guests, field experts and artists expose the reality of their experiences; While revealing the contributions to their successes, failures and current life status.
Xposure Podcast
Episode 21: Unsung Realities: Shifting Work Weeks, Modern Dating Dynamics, and Social Media's Algorithmic Influence
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Hosted by: The Global Zoe, Eric Biddines & Drego Mill
How would your life change with a 32-hour work week? We explore Bernie Sanders' groundbreaking proposal and its potential ripple effects on employee well-being and paychecks. Imagine a world where a four-day work week and flexible PTO and VTO policies are the norm, designed to boost productivity and reduce stress. Our conversation sheds light on the evolving labor standards from the 1940s to today, questioning whether modern workplace expectations truly serve the needs of the contemporary workforce.
Ever wondered why a simple ice cream date could be a game-changer in your dating life? We unravel the complexities of modern dating, from the financial strains of maintaining beauty standards to navigating who pays for what. With personal anecdotes and practical advice, we highlight the value of genuine connections over flashy first impressions. Discover how balancing parental responsibilities with dating can be manageable, and why prioritizing meaningful, budget-friendly interactions could save you from heartbreak and financial drain.
Are high-budget music videos still relevant in the age of YouTube and TikTok? Journey with us as we dissect the impact of social media algorithms on content consumption, from viral clips to celebrity interviews like Cat Williams with Shannon Sharp and Joe Rogan. Learn how to curate your social media feeds for a productive online experience and avoid algorithmic pitfalls. Our discussion on life hacks, platform differences, and the potential ban of popular social media in the US promises to leave you with actionable insights that can enhance every aspect of your digital life. Join us on Exposure for this enlightening episode!
⏰ Chapter Markers ⏰
0:00 - Work-Life Balance and Woman Maintenance
13:55 - The Cost of Dating
21:15 - Dating Etiquette and Financial Expectations
27:21 - Modern Relationship Approach and Avoiding Setbacks
32:51 - The Value of Music Videos Today
44:09 - The Evolution of Music Videos
53:52 - Algorithms and Celebrity Interviews
1:08:27 - Navigating the Social Media Algorithm
1:18:15 - Social Media Algorithms and Misrepresentation
1:23:45 - Social Media Life Hacks and Updates
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Speaker 3:Feeling good. Man 21 is a beautiful number man I'm exhausted.
Speaker 1:I know we exhausted. This man hit us with the exhausted.
Speaker 2:So you with.
Speaker 1:Bernie, you know, bernie Sanders, trying to put in that 32-hour work week. How you feeling? Ooh what? How you feeling?
Speaker 2:But I mean 32, but are you getting paid for 40?
Speaker 1:And you're working 32?, because a lot of people are going to have some problems if you try to throw that 32 at them though.
Speaker 3:That's a good question.
Speaker 2:But they paying us for 40. I mean, I used to do shit. Actually I used to work four, but I worked four tens.
Speaker 1:Well, that's what. It's not official yet. He's been talking about it, but a lot of people have been saying they'd rather do four, 10s, like they'd rather do it in four days. And consider Friday becomes like your weekend now, where you almost have a three-day weekend. So it's being talked about. I mean, I guess if the economy don't, if inflation don't keep going up, I think it's cool, but I don't know if people are going to be able to survive off that. 32.
Speaker 3:So where is Bernie's influence On actually making this happen?
Speaker 1:Work, life, balance and stress.
Speaker 3:I don't know politics, so I don't know where when his positioning is.
Speaker 1:Oh, I ain't dig that deep.
Speaker 3:Like to make this happen.
Speaker 1:All I know he's working on. I can't tell you what oh, I ain't dig that deep, like to make this happen. All I know he's working on I can't tell you what the inspiration, I don't know. I seen a few clips of him talking about it, and he talked about work-life balance how important it is today's time, like I believe the 40-hour work week was. It was written in 1940.
Speaker 1:And he said, we're in 2024 now, like what worked in 1940, and he said we're in 2024 now. Like what worked in 1940 won't necessarily work today. So that's where the conversation is coming like. This is something we probably need to revisit. Um, like, a lot of companies now are giving pto personal time off. So, like you use it how you want to use it, whether it's a vacation, whether you need a mental break for yourself today and you want to hit the reset button but I think, like PTO, a lot of companies are just rolling with PTO. When you use your time off how you want to use it, right, that works.
Speaker 3:I'm happy about that.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:I've been. I had my complaints for that. For a minute PTO I've been.
Speaker 1:I had my complaints for that for a minute PTO.
Speaker 3:No, just how much work hours are demanded from people. I've lived my whole life as an artist here in work. People complain about work and exhaustion. So hearing that for so long, hearing that for so long, for hearing that for so long, you wonder where the if there would be solutions to come in play to change that and how, how that would even look right, right, you heard of vto.
Speaker 2:No, uh, volunteer time off. That means like, let's just say, I don't know, yeah, volunteer, that's from the company though. So let's just say like, again, I used to work for a distribution center and the workload is low for today. Now they can send people home for the day. Now it's volunteer time off. If you like to go home, but you don't get penalized, you still get your PTO time for it. Like you work for today. You don't get the hours, but you get that PTO hours like you work for the day. So it's volunteer time off. You can sign a list. And then the way it worked for our company was what they call it seniority. So if somebody has seniority, they'll be called on that list first but it's not kind of don't like you said.
Speaker 1:So if someone come to me and asked me to go home a little early today, but it won't, I won't be penalized, but it's gonna come from my, my, my PTO time that I accumulated I'm supposed to use for whatever I want to use it for.
Speaker 2:I don't. That'sto, VTO. You don't use it. So the company is saying, hey, we got too much people working today. The workload is low. Who would like to go home?
Speaker 1:Right, but you still get credit for your eight hour shift. Like, let's say, if I left in four hours, am I still getting credit for the rest of the four hours? Correct for VTO, and there's a certain amount of time you guys would accumulate for the year. How does that work, though? How do you get vto, or is it just like you get five days for the year?
Speaker 2:no, no, no, you don't give it to you, so they don't give you time for it. They're just saying at the before the shift starts they say, hey, the workload is less today than what we thought it would be, so we have too much people here. The only thing they give you credit towards is your PTO Cause you know you got to work for your PTO hours.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:So they just given you like, hey, you were supposed to be here for eight, they're going to give you your hours that you're accumulate for that day for your for added onto your PTO time.
Speaker 1:Oh, interesting, I never heard of PTO before.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, it was cool. It was cool, okay. You just don't get paid for your. You don't get the eight hours on your check. Okay, how about that?
Speaker 1:Gotcha, gotcha. Well, man, you know, we got to get that bread, man. So work that got to come, man, we got to get it one way or the other. Work gotta be work, man.
Speaker 2:yeah that's what's up.
Speaker 1:Just gotta rest up my g that's what it is back so you could bounce back. Um, there's something been floating on the internet, man, I know I kind of put it in the chat with y'all boys and I I want to touch base on it. But uh, the first main topic um I want to touch base on is, like the man versus woman maintenance and um, I, I feel like you know, just saying back in the day or even today, you feel me, if you want to feel, you know you got a shawty or something, you feel like you want a cash apple, you want a zella, 100 or 150 out the blue, you would think you you doing something Right. And now they trying to say, like man, that 100, 150, we used to say that ain't fun to do nothing. We got to step it up and we got to Triple it Just to say, hey, man, hold that down, go, go do a little something, something. So Now I just want to Kind of talk to you about the woman maintenance. I'm going to run down some of the things they need to do for maintenance and I'm going to give you all some prices and then I just want to get your input like, hey, do they need to understand that you feel me, what you give, they just should be thankful for what they're receiving. Or should you not send nothing at all if you ain't able to match? Or what these other? I don't know what Ballas is doing or maybe they need to get with athletes.
Speaker 1:But let's run down the list with first wax. A wax is like $60. Nails and toes Nails and toes is $75 to $130. And I know I've been hearing a lot of females complaining about the salons going up in their prices. So I know, like the CVSs and Walgreens be having these little nail kits where, if you do some YouTube and you can pull it off now, if you got you in a quick rush and you just need to look decent for about a week, they be getting these little packages and they be doing it themselves now. So I know that that's been jumping in a lot more.
Speaker 1:Uh, bloggers are talking about it. So you got that. Um, hair, that's 80 to 400. Okay, facial, that's 60 to 150. We talk about the bras, the eyebrows, that's what. 12 to 30. Getting that maintained. Some people got it tattooed on. Not a lot of maintenance there. And, last but not least, if they on them last program, where they getting it done every two weeks. You're talking about 80 to 120. So they saying that hundred that we be sending ain't ain't enough, no more. That 150 you sending it ain't enough, no more. So this is where we at. That was the one thing I wanted to talk about, because I feel like a fella. We ain't really that much, man. Besides getting the cut you know what I'm saying we don't require a whole lot. You got hair. Sometimes you can get your hair done dreads. You got to get that twist. I know that could take a little bit more time, but I feel like the mail maintenance is so minimum so is that replaced with a home-cooked meal and doing laundry and cleaning the house?
Speaker 2:I've seen a sign that says cleaning your home and taking care of your kids is not a gender role, it's not a job, it's just something that we just have to do. Okay, but um, yo, I'm not, I'm not me personally. I'm not paying all that. Bro. I'll pay for somebody lunch. I'll give you 30 for lunch. I'm sorry, but no, I want to get on the maintenance. Real quick. Hold on before we go, though.
Speaker 2:Okay, I want to get on the maintenance okay, okay I want to use me as an example before we go forward. Okay, well, we get I, we get cuts what every two weeks? And then a tape the next two weeks, right? So what? Our prices went up like $35, $40, now maybe $50 some places.
Speaker 1:So you're getting a tape, or you're getting a tape every two weeks.
Speaker 2:I used to get a cut every.
Speaker 1:Well, now Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 2:Now okay. So when I had a low cut, it was a cut two weeks, then the following two weeks you get it taped. Yeah, the following two weeks you get a cut. Now, the way the, what I felt was like you know what I used to have dreads. I feel like I spent kind of less, but it still adds up at almost at the end of the day, because when I, when I get a retwist or a tape or a cleanup was what every two, three months, so I kind of pocket the money, kind of saved it, because it kind of maybe adds up to that almost the same price anyway, right, right, to get it all done, but that's on that end and and just on the on the having hair on your uh, on your head, but, um, it still kind of adds up.
Speaker 2:But I feel like it was you was burning more money, you know, every two weeks or every other two weeks getting your hair done, getting your hair done and get your tape done. Over what? At least 100 something, dollars, 150, getting that shit done. Well, for the prices now back then? No, because it was like 15, 20 back then. For what's that? A cut in the tape or yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Now I think you're at 25, uh, for like a cut, and then if you have a beard, you're at like 35 for a cut with a beard. That's no enhancements, that's not considering a tip, right right.
Speaker 2:So man, look, I'm me coming up my pockets. I ain't giving no lady no money for no maintenance. Man, I'll give you 30 for lunch, but what is lunch?
Speaker 1:But what if she throw it like she's doing it for you? She want to make sure she feel good, her confidence, when y'all step out. She might feel like you, one fly guy, your hair twisted up, and for her, the thing she's asking for, she's trying to compete, because you might be out there looking at these other women who got those characteristics, those, uh, characteristics or those traits done, those features, and she's trying to compete. What you're gonna say then? I'll be honest I would.
Speaker 2:I would do it, but it's not gonna be every time I would, because I thought I would, because I know I have.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying yeah, yeah every time, bro, they're hoping for you to come out the pockets all the time with that dude well, I guess that's the biggest thing, like how often you know what I'm saying, because that is a lot of bread, though that is a lot of bread, and if she and if she's managing it, she's doing it like bi-weekly, that's a lot of bread plus me, oh man.
Speaker 2:and then the date, bro we are 800 in the hole already, bro.
Speaker 1:This is just dating. No, this wasn't even dating. This could be. I don't think nobody should be. No one ain't spending that much when they dating.
Speaker 1:I mean now we in a time where the males kind of like, if we dating, like if I pay for one and we go on a second date, the opposite sex paying for the other, now I think people starting to kind of understand that we just date in life because the women been getting free meals, that narrative been pushed so much that I think a lot of guys done caught on to that. Like hey, if we go on a second date, then the next person pay. Oh, we're not going to a fancy joint, we're going somewhere where we have to really talk um, that's been a new thing like a coffee shop. I know that's been talked about a lot, like going to a coffee shop, not going to a fancy diner for the first, uh, date. Uh, because once again, man, some of these girls, man they do this three, four times a week for a free meal and they out of there because I used to start it off with ice cream.
Speaker 1:Man, ice cream I like to start it off ice cream, let man Ice cream.
Speaker 2:I used to like to start it off with ice cream.
Speaker 1:Let's go get some ice cream. Lord, I ain't been to. No, I know.
Speaker 2:I've been turned down one time like that, but it always worked. But it always worked Okay.
Speaker 3:I just don't know if I don't know how I feel good on the first date, just licking a cone in front of a girl the whole night.
Speaker 2:Yay, my first date just licking a cone in front of a girl the whole night yeah, like what, what, what type?
Speaker 3:what am I are you insinuating? I won't be able, I won't be able to, to keep myself from you know. Just, I don't know, trying to lick the cone in front of you know what.
Speaker 1:So you, you get in the cup, bro, and you, you got the spoon ice cream, or you're going to go.
Speaker 3:Nah Dre, don't lick in the cone, he all in the face with it. He put the sprinkles on it. He like he got his pinky up, he looking dead in the eyes. He got it creaming down on his knuckles. He know what he doing and he ain't spending much, lord.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to take it for coffee. I don't like coffee like that. I don't drink coffee. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:You don't drink coffee at all.
Speaker 2:Very rare, very rare. Okay, you know what I'm saying, but for me, bro, if I drink coffee, that bitch going to have me up for the next 15, 16, maybe 18 hours.
Speaker 3:It's like a monster to me. What, um, why are you taking?
Speaker 2:her someplace cheap, if I can ask. Bro, we we're getting to know each other. I think we should grow into that. You know what I'm saying. Like we should go into a bigger we should grow into a bigger restaurant. You know what I'm saying? Because it can go there. But why would I? Why would I take you anywhere else?
Speaker 3:So it is about the money with you.
Speaker 2:Are we getting to know me here, or are we getting to know my pockets here? Am I getting to know? I'm trying to get to know her.
Speaker 3:I'm saying, even if you went somewhere expensive.
Speaker 2:I'm kind of creating a vibe, a little smaller vibe, where we can grow into, of course, going to the big restaurants.
Speaker 3:It sound like he's trying to create a vibe or he's doing it for the economical sake, because he started off.
Speaker 1:I get where you're going. I'm going out based on you, yeah.
Speaker 2:It could be that too, because you're like, ooh, you know what, maybe, yeah, okay, okay, okay, I see where you're coming from Spend the 120 on the first date.
Speaker 3:That was my button, that was my button you. But like make Did you hear that. Because now I'm feeling like as a person who ain't going to be involved. If I can't you, you know, keep up with it, then I wouldn't even initiate. If I can, if I can't afford even the things that they may suggest us doing like they might want to go on a hike or something like that I'm like, oh, I ain't even got no sneakers, so now you got to get things like you got to be able to afford.
Speaker 1:Just in, engage in the opportunity so you would, you would, you would pick things that you can keep up with, like if you, I would already have the.
Speaker 3:I wouldn't want the money to be an issue in that okay, like something, and we know us, we know what's convenient.
Speaker 3:But if you're dating a person and you saying to yourself, oh, I'm getting to know this person, I want to see them every week, we ain't hunching yet or nothing. So we staying over in Netflix and not every time we linking up, we going somewhere, like the first four months. Okay, I know I'm a need to have a budget about 120 to 200 every week just to be able to participate and engage with this person.
Speaker 3:Now if you ain't got that extra money. If she's oh, I want to see this movie, you got to make excuses. And we've all probably and I'm assuming we all have been here, but I feel like most of us been there where it was like, man, we hollering at a chick and she want to go somewhere and do something. Oh, the fair in town, you want to go there. You like, oh, this is a bad that land on a bad week, I know, for the fair you might not need by 4, 4, 60 or something like that, that just to pull it off and you're like, nah, now you're making, you're making excuses when you really can't afford it, like sometimes that'd be a big case listen.
Speaker 2:When you first meet him, what first? When you first acting for a day to go out on a date you don't put it out right there and then put what out? Straight up if I'm going to. That's why I said with the ice cream hey, I would like to take you out for some ice cream sometime. Would would you like to go here, right there and there I would.
Speaker 1:I would automatically so that's, that's your you. You throw that out there, you're putting it out there instantly and shut it down. Shut it down, that's it so that's it, though there's no other date and you ain't going. What does she make a suggestion on it? Maybe she want to go to Cheesecake. She want to go to Red Lobster? Yeah, then okay, but you're going to suggest ice cream Because it's more of a, it allows y'all to have a conversation.
Speaker 3:It allows you to get to know each other better. I'd be like Grandpa I don't know if you're a care partner or something like that.
Speaker 3:If you're going to pull the in the van to take me on this date by ice cream, it's adorable, I ain't mad at it. But I just don't know the intention of um approaching a woman, not in modern times. I'm not talking about what may um be accepted like traditionally. In modern times it makes sense to be able to afford to date because it costs just going outside. Just going outside, it costs both people and so if you engaging and you approaching her, it's going to cost her, because what it takes for a woman to get ready, that ain't what it take a dude, we might get some clippers from Walgreens and touch ourselves up just to look decent, throw on a hat.
Speaker 3:They got to get. If they want open-toed shoes, there's so much expected of them that we also put on them, because we're going to talk about their feet if the feet busted, we're going to talk about their feet if the feet busted, we're going to talk about them hands if the hands rusty. So it takes them so much just to say, alright, I'm going to see. If you even bought something, she went and spent you know $200. I done seen people do it. Or they got a date coming up from the waxing for the appointment. They spending $200 plus just to see you and they might not give you no coochie Ooh, that ain't even in their plan. They just want to be right, that's expensive.
Speaker 1:Well, see, I think this would have to be. When we talk about the list I ran down and what you're spending, I would think, if you're not already in a relationship, this would be somebody you're trying to be exclusive with. Because it took me a minute y'all when I thought dating. When I heard the word dating, I assumed that's people that went together. That's what I assumed, like five to up, like at least five. Six years ago I thought, when you say yo, I'm dating, I'm with somebody, like until you know, as I talk to more people when they say they're dating, dating means you're seeing people. You know what I mean. You got a rotation. It may be two, it may be five, it could be whatever.
Speaker 1:When you're dating, you're just seeing people until you guys create that contract to be exclusive. Because that's why I was like well damn, I was so confused. I was like oh so when you're dating, you're allowed to see other people. It's like, oh so when you're dating, you're allowed to see other people. It's not cheating when you're dating, when you're exclusive. Now we're making this commitment.
Speaker 1:All right, I'm cutting everybody off. You the one, right? So I guess that's another thing. I just wanted to be clear on that when we're talking about this. So I think, when you're going to be exclusive, when you're in a relationship I don't know if someone's going to need all those things happening every two weeks but I think fellas contributing to they ladies maintenance if they're unable to do this on their own. I could see guys shooting whatever. What cash happens there Now them requests or what you're sending is so quick and easy, but that is a lot of bread in today's time when most people working two jobs are are trying to survive in the economy that we got right now a whole lot of bread.
Speaker 3:That's why I emphasize modern times. In modern times, what it takes a woman to look how we expect them to look, even just in basic, not even heavy makeup and brows and stuff.
Speaker 3:They might just buying the tools to do it and some of the um, the, the ointments, just for the, the face and all this stuff to look like how we want oh look it costs a lot of money and I'm I'm on the side with y'all, but I also see what they spend and I'm like, ooh, you can save a lot of money just not even talking to dudes because you can like all right, I can let the coochie go fuzzy for a minute, I can. You know, I can wave a nice wig. I got put on the press on. Ooh, it's a lot. Yeah, I, I can't even be mad if they ask him, um, if they even ask him for some money, if we expect them to look like that well, that's why I make it easy to be like, hey, I'll be, like, hey, look, I'm trying to.
Speaker 2:I want to go catch this movie. Would you like to come? I don't try to make it real difficult, bro, to keep it nice and simple, and that's what I believe. That's how I do it, bro so you're going to ice cream.
Speaker 1:You, mr, I pick, you like this. You, mr, I pick, and mr cole I'll do that, I'll do it, I'll do it too, yeah, yeah, I think you'll do that.
Speaker 3:You'll get up the 128 doing the I pick night.
Speaker 2:No no, no, understood, but, but so I'm. I'm asking what you like to attend. You know what I'm saying, so, but but here's what I heard. Guys, the person that asked their person to go out should be the person to pay the bill.
Speaker 1:Yeah even if it's the girl. I do that.
Speaker 2:I do that like today yeah, she asked you to go out. She should pay the bill.
Speaker 1:But if I ask someone to go, hey bro, let's go. I don't know if I'm catching up on lunch with somebody If I talk to my fam hey, let's go out.
Speaker 1:They know that's what it is. I don't even spend a lot of time in the kitchen, so me and my son got this thing. We be playing. He be like I be like I'm going to go cook what you want to go eat. You know what I'm saying. They'd be like they name and I'll take them and they'd be like I said so how was my food? Wasn't it done eating? I'm always like how was my food? And then every time we leave a restaurant, he'd be like man, your cooking was good, dad, man, your cooking was good.
Speaker 3:So that's. Yeah, I should be taking care of him. You're a wholesome guy, though, because you bought my food a few times just because you said, hey, we're going to link up, we're going to talk Like. It felt like a business meeting. I thought he was getting reimbursed by somebody. All right, you take the receipts and everything. No, no, no, I got it. You good the receipts and everything. No, no, no, I got it, I just think. Is there anything he asked?
Speaker 2:you dude. I'm like no, we ain't dating, but drago, I want to ask you something. I want to ask I've been asked that from a female um- drago, I want to ask you something.
Speaker 3:Um, and it's not judging you, but you said when you I'm going back to when you said you ask if they want to attend. When you're saying that, when you're setting it up that way, that invite are you making it?
Speaker 2:to where they have to pay their own side. Oh no, no, I'll be like look, I'm going to go. No, of course not. That means I'm asking you to come with me and I'm going to take care of it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I would like you to go with me and I'm going to take care of it. Yeah, I would like you to go with me to to watch this movie. Look, I want to watch this movie. Would you like to go with me? I would like you to come with me. Yes, it knows. No, it's. If it's a no, it's no it is what it is.
Speaker 1:So I try on the list. No more, that ain't the place to go. No, more.
Speaker 2:Hey, listen, get right, I don't care. I'm telling you what the meal can be really nice price, come on yeah.
Speaker 1:I like cheesecake, bro. I don't like how they put cheesecake on that list like it ain't here.
Speaker 2:Bro, that's crazy to me, that was wild.
Speaker 3:It ain't really as expensive as has been the reputation, say Cheesecake Factory.
Speaker 1:Well, no, I guess you know, maybe six months ago the ladies was trying to create a new list of places we supposed to take them. Like, we can't do the Red Lobsters, no more, we can't do the Cheesecake Factory. They want these high-end restaurants where you, where you gonna leave spending about a yard per person oh, per person yeah I mean if you got it, if it ain't no hey I ain't, I ain't.
Speaker 3:Once again, we in the dating world slab I mean, if you committed with somebody.
Speaker 1:I ain't got that. I think there's no rules. Do what you do. We just still talking. Dating Folks dating in 2024 they wanna go to these Fancy ass restaurants. They want, they want everything.
Speaker 3:See, I wouldn't. And this me. I'm not Traditional by any sense, but I would skip. I would skip the Like the tradition, I would Skip the modern Dating process. I would try to do that and just bypass that and go straight to stuff that's making sense for both both of us give us an example bro.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm about to say I'm thinking, but what you mean, uh?
Speaker 3:this me, I'm making it up, so don't camera world, don't hold me to this permanently, but I might just engage um um platonically for a minute and then we flirt and stuff like that. And it's not. It's not. There's no intention for it to go anywhere directly to a dating phase. But you build in this um momentum to where y'all um learning each other platonically as friends, to where there's no pressures of either of us looking extra good when we seeing each other. Are we talking like a lot of um um interaction, whether it be through texts and phone calls and coffee shops, maybe some ice creams, maybe like, do things like that, but not making it formal, and then it get into a point like all right, well, now we know what each other's trying to do.
Speaker 3:Then you just broke down everything I would say we make our goals to to go to that and even if we don't end up together, that may not be the goal, but hopefully I helped you with some things and hopefully you helped me with some things and it just benefited our regular life. It didn't. It never had to step into the dating side of things and it can even be a long-term um goal. Another, like hey, maybe we want to go somewhere on this date, this day, you know, four months down the line, but it's not. I would really try to avoid either of us investing in the dating concept of spending money and, more so, being in the process of us trying to build something, even if it's just as friends and stuff like that. Like, I wouldn't even want you to.
Speaker 3:If I know your situation and this you're assuming you knowing the person, you getting to know the real person really well, right then I wouldn't even want to put you in a situation to where you spending x amount of money to come see me or I'm doing this, and then we really find out and we learn about each other. Like, hey, none of this ain't even make sense to our true goal and we spent, you know, eight months doing this. We ain't even together, no more. But we you end up looking back at what you spent and what kind of put you back? Sometimes the dating process, all the experiences in the spin you, when it's all said and done, when it don't go the way you want, you look back and you're like man, that was a setback and that's what I would be trying to avoid. That's what I would be trying to avoid.
Speaker 1:It sounds like some nice human being stuff. Slav, it sounds good what you're saying. I guess if you could find somebody who's willing and who understands that concept, that sounds amazing. I just know they say the dating world is hard. I don't know if you got people out there willing to slow it down and grow with each other genuinely and not just be in competition Because I know what my friend got going on yeah, they got to be out there and competition because I know what my friend got going on.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they got to be out there too. Then it's people that's more in the world where they got the highest salaries, they can do all those things.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:That part not even a problem. So if it's women out there, it's people that's hustling, getting it working, two, three jobs and all this and they got it. Their standards obviously going to be totally different, but I'm speaking for the average person to where, even if you do got it, but you have some plans, I'm not trying to let me engage, me stepping into your life because I like you, you look good, I want to get to know you, hang out with you and build something intimate. I don't want that. And now it's throwing what you got going on off and in four months we figure out it ain't, it ain't clicking. And now you're like, man, I waste. I waste a lot of time with that dude, I missed out on other opportunities. And those missed opportunities be for real. You can, yeah, you can miss out on some real great things.
Speaker 1:Hmm, I'm with you. You set a mouthful, then I think If you can find somebody out there like that, that's dope, that's dope Cause I. It sounds like horror stories nowadays when I talk, when I hear people talk about dating today. Man, they be like man, it's so hard out here, boy, like If you ain't locked something in back in the day. It's just hard out here.
Speaker 3:You don't know who you're getting.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Because you don't know what the internet did to brand new people. Now, if you can remember people before internet, now you feel like you might know them, you right. But post internet, I don't know what you've been exposed to. And now, when you left, now, when you left, your the situation that had you grounded and who you came in as now you a whole nother person, and in some cases that might be better. You might get a better version of somebody else's ex and they somebody else's ex might get with you and they a whole new person, they completely different than what they was in the situation that they thought they was more comfortable in. I guess it could work both ways.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I guess that saying they say, one person's trash is another person's treasure. You know what I'm?
Speaker 3:saying One person's treasure is another person's trash. But even you can make if you got the nice aroma you can make all treasure into trash, all treasure into trash, all treasure into trash.
Speaker 1:That's not what the world need more trash, I mean if you got the right aroma, you can make all trash into trash. There we go, there you go, there you go. Crack that back and reverse. He like this dude Just manually reversed it. He didn't get that From Spice, neither. That's an Eric B reverse.
Speaker 3:If you got the rice aroma, you can turn any trash.
Speaker 2:I almost spit the water Out my mouth.
Speaker 1:Drago just was letting you go To Drago like yeah that's alright. That's alright, come on now. Come on now, cause I'm like, wait a minute, what's the last thing? I'm glad you was paying attention. Yeah, I am, I'm listening, I'm taking notes here, I'm trying to. Trying to give some friends. I got some friends and I'm I'm trying to play this back, this episode back, and be like Look you, you need to listen to this marker, to this marker, because my dog, airbuse, is not game. Maybe this is what y'all doing wrong.
Speaker 3:Hey, drago was just riding with me too. Man, you see him. Thank you, global, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:He just eating his tassel. We interrupted his dinner. He just like man, I'm eating.
Speaker 3:What that is, oh man.
Speaker 2:That was the beet salad, the beet salad, the beet salad, you got the whole traditional Haitian plate With the beet salad.
Speaker 1:I ain't know nothing about the beet salad.
Speaker 2:You gotta give me the address to y'all joint too. I haven't been there yet.
Speaker 1:Oh, you slacking. I was there the other day.
Speaker 2:Nah, for sure.
Speaker 1:Good, good, good. Another thing I want to talk about. We gonna talk about your, your algorithm, but this is just near and dear to me, you know, being active. And Another thing I want to talk about.
Speaker 1:We're going to talk about your algorithm, but this is just near and dear to me. You know being active and seeing where music is going. I wanted to talk about music videos and you know how important are they in 2024? Back in the day, we all know we had 106 and Park. You had MTV Jams, mtv Countdown. Know we had 106 and part. You had mtv jams, mtv countdown. We had a lot of platforms. When you did a video, these uh platforms will showcase this video.
Speaker 1:And before youtube really took off like that, um and videos was important for an artist. They carried you like you knew if you did a record, you did a video, it would help it travel. Now reels and short form content and the iphone 13, 14, 15 or whatever you're working with um have taken over where, uh, a lot of people are shooting uh videos or freestyles or in the studio performances and they're releasing a lot of one minute clip uh shorts or reels or teasers, however you want to call it. So just I wanted to kind of get you guys input on music videos, like how important are they to an artist in today's time and do you need to spend the five, the six, maybe ten bands to do a video, or can I spend maybe a couple of thousand and create 50 short clips, and will that be more effective than a four minute video? Just from you know, maybe personal experiences or maybe some of the artists that you follow do you see what they're doing and what do you think is going work for an artist today?
Speaker 3:I would say, um, from our artistic expression. Videos are important for the craft, but economically for a project in its budget, I don't see it being worth spending what we historically was spending on music videos because you have smaller budget, almost no budget, clips being more effective than the big thing. So if if that's the case and it's showing to be, and you can crank it out your volume is increased on it, then why would you spend so much money, energy and resources and campaigning on one video when you can have more results with much less? And so that's for me me sad to admit, from my artist mind, because we grew up loving music videos, shooting them sometimes. But it's like the, the consumer's eye, it. You ain't wowed by a music video, even if it's amazing. You're like all right, they did a good job with this music video. Next, because you may be watching it through a, a feed, for the most part these days, or, obviously, if you're going to youtube. But we could watch things once and never revisit before if somebody had a dope video.
Speaker 3:Some videos I done seen a few times. I seen Bombs Over Bad Dad, miss Jackson. There's a lot of videos I can remember. We saw it a lot because, for one, mtv was going to make sure you seen it. You was happy every time it came on platforms. We were seeing the video in one lifetime. We might have saw one video a hundred times Today. That's not happened. You're not even not even your expectations right.
Speaker 1:So to your point. I agree with you. 100. You hit you. We could go to the next topic.
Speaker 1:I like exactly how you broke it down, because I feel the exact same way. So when it comes to a music video, I feel like you. You, you know you don't probably have to do as much, but an artist should have a music video in your resume, like you should accumulate. I have a a decent amount. Maybe you ain't doing them, even if you do two, two times a year. I feel like an established artist should have that because it gets to show you and your creativity.
Speaker 1:But to me, eric, we're so consumed Like I done, seen dope one minute clips that I tell. Well, even when I talk to a younger artist, I'm like yo put, make your video make sense, give us more than two locations, three locations, one background, and what you're saying isn't matching. Like what you're saying I should be seeing somehow in the music video. But today it's almost like let me just get in front of a camera with an outfit and I'm good, so it doesn't stick. And you got some people who will spend I mean, they will kill a minute, real Like they in four or five locations switching outfits, camera running behind them. They just maneuvering in a one minute clip and it's way more exciting than a longer video with a bigger budget.
Speaker 1:So I almost think we got to look at music videos like three minute reels, like that first minute you watch it should be that action pack or that lit the next minute same way. So you got to look at it like three to four different reels instead of just a music video, because you got 30 second clips that could kill a four minute video and I just think we see so much when we stroll, we stimulated so much from people doing different things that you've got to bring it or you to your point. I'm gonna watch this thing once and be like, ah, that was cool, and I never get back to it. So that's one thing I've been trying to work on with my upcoming projects is like I want it to look like four reels that's mashed together, so you like, you vibe and you in tune the whole time, because you don't know what's going to happen next.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think you're right on that, man. Um, you got me thinking about the old days, like the michael jackson usher videos and but the reels make so much more sense because we're, of course it's short, it's 30 seconds sometimes be the most dopest, and longer than these three minute videos, but it still got me going back because how they used to throw Michael in our face on VH1 and MTV and we would get so glued to it. I don't know, I think we're different because we was. We grew up in those times. I still do like the videos but again, like you just said, it has to make sense. I like the storytelling. Again, like you just said, it has to make sense. I like the storytelling, I love the storytelling. And, um, um, again, it bring me back to michael, because michael was telling a story, like he did his video thing, but he went back to the story. It it connected to another story, connected to another story and it was like his old, all of his music connected and playing. But, um, you're right, everybody just stands in front of the mic just hanging. They're telling the story, but it doesn't give us what we need. You're right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man, but I do like the shorts because there's some people that do it. So right, I guess that's what wins. You're right. Yeah, three-minute shorts could actually get it done, but nobody would know. Well, nobody would really know. It'll keep you still locked in, but when it's all in one, because we're still locked in, they won't really know unless you drop the shorts, first maybe, and then you. You know that would be. That's very creative. Actually, that's kind of dope man. I don't even know. We should be talking about it, you.
Speaker 3:You should just be doing it right now. People doing it that way. Are you explaining, yeah?
Speaker 1:Maybe not around, maybe not in our presence, maybe people we don't know about it, not on our timeline or in our circle, but I would think maybe it does exist. But at the same time, you know, these are the gyms that I wish I could. If there was a platform that was even local and I could tune in and get gyms and learn and apply. I think it's just very important that we have somewhere to go to get this information. You know I'm saying so. That's that's why I really wanted to talk about it, because even myself I was battling what to do next and how do I promote a project?
Speaker 2:example y'all did it right like uh, uh, that was the dirt on my shoes, was a step on my shoes, what?
Speaker 1:was the name of the dirt allergic to dirt.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I did that video right. I feel like that was done right. Um, the one with you, with uh H man uh in Haiti, that was got clean, the visuals, like I like the videos. I don't know, maybe it's just me, but, um, here's the question I want to ask. Let's get, let's get back to that. Are they still giving video Awards? Music video.
Speaker 3:Awards, the VMAs might still exist.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think they best perform. Yeah, I think there is a best video of the year or correct.
Speaker 2:You know I'm saying because I think every award show was giving one away anyway for a video right back in the day. Yeah, I don't know if they're doing it now. I haven't seen a video. I haven't seen an award show in a while but we have more um avenues to consume media. True, but nobody's getting an award for it. It's almost not a competition, no more, because it was more of a competition because there was an award back in the day.
Speaker 3:Before there was a time where, through the directors and the budgets and things like that, it was a goal to have the best music video. Right now, I don't think when people making music videos they are, you know, trying to make the best music video ever. I don't mean, I don't think that's a goal at all.
Speaker 3:If anything, the sometimes it feel like the music video is the last resort of something like something might have went viral and it took off and i's, you know, doing numbers, is doing good, and then you know a couple of months later they finally give you the video and then the album coming out. But that's not even a priority if the music or viral clips can do its thing. I'm feeling like the usage of the intention of the music video. You can feel those intentions in other places for cheaper, probably more creatively. The budget may not be there, but you can't doubt some of the creative ways that people have had their music or their content engaged with you when it's in other places. So video, like just to have something visually exciting, is no longer even limited to music. We placing mute, we putting this emphasis on music and visuals being important but not realizing visually is spread across a much wider spectrum.
Speaker 3:If a kid growing up or if a generation growing up and they're in this um, they're in this um to where you know just people who funny on social media is what they visually want to see, that generation may not even care about music videos because you're competing with attention and the time you have within that time frame of their life and what they have available to entertain with.
Speaker 3:If it's a kid like watching, it's a whole generation of kids like watching sadly satisfying videos. They like watching. You know, other people play video games to the gaming world. Other people play video games to the gaming world you got this attention that have nothing to do with a music video and its song, but they're just as much as your problem as a music video artist. It's just much of your problem, even though it's outside of your category. It's all our problems in that sense. Yeah, but they always say, well, it all comes back around. So something might show up to where, oh no, we really do like videos. But what I will say? To throw this in there, in there, at least the it'll make the music have to be good, because now if I watch a video, I must have to like the song to want to go check out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if the song hot for me and then they drop videos, I gotta watch the video. That's, that's how it is for me. The song gotta be hot first. Yeah, it's songs.
Speaker 3:I like I didn't even know they had music videos me too.
Speaker 2:I was like they got a video to this right, I just, I just.
Speaker 3:That's probably making us we probably feeling old, because AJ ain't free or Terrence and Roxane ain't presenting to us. Right, so we ain't know.
Speaker 1:Do we need the platforms back here? Yeah, I would say 100% yes.
Speaker 3:I said this on a few podcasts we messed up, we messed up, we messed up by saying we didn't need the system, we didn't need the labels, we didn't need these executives, these gatekeepers. Now I'm feeling like we do.
Speaker 1:So you know what's one thing on BET that they just brought back and speaking of it's a different world but Comic View. They brought Comic View back. Oh, that's Remember how much new talent we used to discover on top of the. So Mike Epps is the regular host, but they're bringing back Comic View on BET.
Speaker 3:Really yeah. Now where would I watch BET? I got the app, the app.
Speaker 1:I got the app. The app. I got the app BT Plus. That's the only way we would be able to. No, I mean, you got regular TV If you got. Xfinity or AT&T regular TV you should be able to have.
Speaker 3:Regular TV still exists.
Speaker 1:When I say regular, we're talking about yeah, I'm talking about cable. I'm sorry, but maybe I should say cable. Okay, I ain't talking about the basic antenna out the window and you got the five, ten channels.
Speaker 3:But yeah, that's my podcast, intelligence.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:When you ask a question, it's not a smart question because you know, but the viewers get the answer yeah, yeah, you right, you right. So yeah, I call that podcast intelligence. Podcast intelligence they kind of slightly act stupid. Just to give you the opportunity to respond to everybody, they got regular tv, yeah, so then you kind of get, oh yeah podcast intelligence I don't have.
Speaker 1:I just got apps, so I'm consumed with apps, but yeah, when I was watching bt. I was like damn um, knowing that comic view, because I used to tune in the comic view. I thought that was dope and it also made me think like man. Maybe somebody gonna come back and be like man. We need a place where we can watch tv, like music videos again. This is gonna be strictly for music videos, um, and it's just showing music videos.
Speaker 3:Uh, we'll see what if that, if that comes back around we need something that's difficult to ignore, like when you you couldn't ignore vh1 MTV BT. It might have been one more you say MTV vh1 BT. Yeah, I feel like it was one month, but it was like the main one. No, trl was just a show on MTV.
Speaker 1:That was a show on MTV.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was a show, you couldn't ignore it I think we had the Box or the Views or something like that. That was on TV.
Speaker 3:But you had those that was for music that you couldn't ignore.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:So what was coming through there was it was going to be amplified and it was going to be appreciated. Uh, now, the downside to that you kind of give uh, you give certain platforms a little too much control, but I'm not mad at superstars returning to those um platforms that you just can't ignore hell no um, because right now it's just certain things that is going missed, like really amazing artists, music songs, the basement freestyles was like epic.
Speaker 2:Like those legendary?
Speaker 1:Is that back? No, I just was. As Eric was talking about the platform, I just thought I remember how that was something.
Speaker 2:I tuned into when you knew somebody was a guest they're going to go in the booth Pretty much Because they sat down with them.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they could have been almost everything that would podcast. Now we would say podcast been existed because people have been doing it for the longest, because now just doing interviews is considered a podcast.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:No matter how you do it, no.
Speaker 1:I mean and something I kind of noticed shout out to Shannon Sharp, because Club Shay Shay just won Best Sports Podcast, but Club Shay Shay interviews more than athletes, so I thought that was different. You would think it would just be athlete-driven, but he's touching rappers, producers, artists, comedians.
Speaker 3:He's all over with Club Shay Shay.
Speaker 1:You know, and it's considered a sports podcast.
Speaker 3:I ain't mad at him getting that own award.
Speaker 1:Oh, no me, neither Me, neither he's putting in that work. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Like you said, it's broader than that, but his background says, hey, it's from sports and I did my thing.
Speaker 1:And did you hear the line where he said he made more money with the Cat Williams interview than he did in any year playing football?
Speaker 3:It's crazy, I did not know that.
Speaker 1:Oh, he said, since y'all talking smackacking, let me go ahead and put it out there. He finally, uh, he kind of threw that line out there and that went like uh, it went viral for sure on my timeline and people started trying to find his salary when he was playing for like denver and the ravens. But that interview definitely uh, because I know Cat Williams just went on Joe Rogan's show. I don't know where the views are with that, but I know it's going to do good, you're going to pull them up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm just going to see the numbers on it, but I don't know if there's an interview that's done what Cat Williams and Shannon Sharp did.
Speaker 2:Nah man within hours over 35 million. Come on man Right, five hours it uh. Nah man within hours over 35 million. Come on man right. Five hours in 35 million views. Come on, not even a music video, music videos had to take years to get up.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying I am surprised, I didn't know listen I didn't know cat.
Speaker 3:Whatever cat williams got is so unique because there's people that's um in some, in some arenas you may consider bigger than cat williams that can't do them numbers yeah, I just think I'm saying across all genres, whether it's tech, whether it's like you can do an interview with bill gates, he won't.
Speaker 1:He might not do the numbers that Cat Williams did, and it's $14 million in two weeks for Joe Rogan.
Speaker 3:That's a lot. That's a lot of views, that's a lot. And they had a really good podcast that I watched. I probably watched the whole thing.
Speaker 2:I missed that one, oh wow.
Speaker 3:Oh no, it's a great one. If you thought the Shannon Sharp one was on something, you watch the Joe Rogan one. You're going to be like, oh, cat Williams, he's somewhere else.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, okay, I can see that Because I felt like it was more. Shannon Sharp was a little more personal with the topics and stuff like that, but I felt like when I saw clips of Joe Rogan it was just everything Like they really talked about the topics and stuff like that. But I felt like when I saw clips of Joe Rogan it was just everything Like they really talked about the world and dementia it was just a lot of stuff Like what's out there.
Speaker 3:They go far. Yeah, it is nice. It's reassuring for people that just have they question more. So there's reassurance to come from people as big as them that you know, probably in spaces you could only dream of, and to be able to talk about some of the stuff and the theories and the concepts, to kind of normalize. It is soothing because you don't feel like you would be tripping. For those who think like that, you don't feel like you're tripping because you're like, all right, these two well-known people discussing it. So, hey, it's kind of cool.
Speaker 1:I don't have to feel weird about thinking or talking about or researching or wanting to know about some of these things because it's out there and cat just seemed to me like he talked, that he could talk to anybody, like he would entertain, like if somebody was on the street, let's say if somebody was homeless. I can see Cat having a four-hour conversation with this person and learning, like being able to teach this person and still learning from her. Like he just seemed like he's so well-rounded, though, like it don't matter what. You could talk about anything with Cat and he has an experience. He can guide you, he gonna give you some gems, he just gonna I'm like man, what can he?
Speaker 3:What don't he know, the Joe Rogan one Take him to a Even higher level. Yeah, because he keeping up with concepts that you can only, that people can only speculate, that go beyond Like him as a comedian.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, wait, wait.
Speaker 3:Oh, even as somebody that's just creative. And then he broke down how he was, how he read these books, and I'm a book reader too, I was like that makes so much sense.
Speaker 3:And I can see how he actually did read this many books and how it was, how he was going as a little kid, going to these libraries checking them out and just going through them. Going through them, going through them, I'm like that makes so much sense. And then he started breaking down the books he read. So now this me in my mind, peeking into his mind, I'm like the programming within his mind, just on what he remembered, just on what he read, just on what he, he actually know about and able to apply to in today's time.
Speaker 3:And so people who can go back to some of the um, the historical accounts and things like that of histories and and narratives and trajectories and sciences, and then see where we at today, people who have read, who have processed this stuff, then back then, before some of the stuff came about now in your mind, you like I read this, I read about some of this stuff when it didn't exist. Now I'm living in some of the existence of many of these things. So now imagine all the other stuff I read at the same time. That ain't necessarily perceivable. If this came to be, then these things have to have come to be because they're too connected. Anybody else won't, and I sound like I don't even know what I'm talking about. But anybody else who or would connect those things and have lived through the changes to be proven, would say man, it's unbelievable sound like y'all.
Speaker 1:It's unbelievable.
Speaker 3:Yes, it's unbelievable. So he was talking how he was talking and he was going to some of these books and things like that. I was like, oh, I would have never known.
Speaker 1:I would have never known. Yes, sir, yes, sir, well, shoot, that was number two. And then gonna let you I'm gonna let you Bring us home With the what you wanted to get out and your studies and tests.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, so I've been. I've been experimenting On myself For like the last Three, four years, so With the. So I want to talk about the and how I put it in chat. The, the algorithm Abuse Did I? So I want to talk about how I put it in chat the algorithm abuse.
Speaker 1:Is that how I worded it. You kind of made it sound cooler in the text thread the algorithmic A harassment, oh yeah, algorithmic, the harassment of the algorithm. There you go.
Speaker 3:So in these algorithms, how they are structured, it typically would give you what you want to see. And when you know what you want to see, you're going to see it and you'll be happy with it.
Speaker 3:Like if I'm slowing down over titties and titties keep popping up. I'm not really mad when I'm seeing stuff that's pleasing to the eye. Seeing stuff that's pleasing to the eye, okay. So now, after a while, the algorithm is attempting to be your friend so much and also still hold the uh, the diversification in there that you start you starting to see your algorithm be an extension of, like, even your subconscious okay of things that you slightly want to touch on, but it still kept moving and now it's there.
Speaker 3:So I had two pages. I had, like a page I made that ain't really associated with anything that I was traditionally connected to. So when I moved so when I start playing with my other page I had to retrain the, the feed um, what is it? The discovery feed? Yep, I had to retrain that by market marking a whole lot of stuff, whether I slowed down over it, not just marking a whole lot of stuff, so it didn't show me anything, because you will. You'll get to this point, to where your algorithm is arguing with you. It's like mad at you for not wanting to look at certain content. And so I'm seeing this in my experiences with my feed, to where I'm having to, um, delete certain things out just so I don't have to see it saying the opposite of what I want. How?
Speaker 1:are you deleting?
Speaker 3:You say oh, I'm not interested, not interested. On IG. Right, yeah, on IG.
Speaker 2:You say I'm speaking specifically to IG.
Speaker 3:You hold it down, it'll say not interested.
Speaker 1:The post or the video of the post you post. You can hold it down.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you hold it down and then at the bottom, or the three dots you hit at the bottom it gives you options.
Speaker 3:Said not interested yeah and you say you say not interested, so okay, it it naturally or I don't know if it's naturally, I'm just assuming it naturally. If you say, say you're into the wellness world, which I like, looking at some of the motivational things and stuff like that, if you're clicking on people who are saying some good motivational stuff, you will also get, I want to say, some people who don't deliver that intent. Well, so you'll have one person. So say you'll be liking this person or people that's equivalent to them and they're saying some really positive dope stuff. It's on point, it's it's it's inspiring you, it's lifting up your day, it's just something you would love to see on your timeline. Then all of a sudden, the opposite of that will pop up, for whatever reason, I don't know why. It's almost like your, your feed, your algorithm feed, is arguing with each other. So now you got the people who deliver. Well, you got. I want to. I'm not going to call them um, artificial, but I'm gonna say certain someone else's delivery might be completely like more aggressive, more disrespectful, like more controlling, more manipulating and things like that. You have to be able to kind of resonate with the person's intent or the post intent, and then they can get real disrespectful post-intent and then it'll get. They'll get, they can get real disrespectful and you'll see just mean, mean stuff.
Speaker 3:Be on your timeline and you like I'm not speaking in the discovery section, I'm like man, this ain't what I really want to see. Then you might see a post of you know, let's say, a beautiful black woman. She's just beautiful, it ain't over sexualized or anything. Now, all of a sudden you're gonna see all of the hoochie stuff too. You'll start coming, you like that ain't what I was. That's not. That wasn't my intention with that. I wasn't trying to see that right there. Then you might see certain things. So it's trying so hard to please you, but it's also feeding you the it's because it's not human. It. It's not doing a good job at filtering out what end up becoming disrespectful. So the the part of you that know your intentions. Now it got me in a place where I'm like man, if I see a beautiful black woman, I'm scared to like the picture or slow down on it, because now I'm going to have to deal with my timeline Also having the stuff that's more. That's not. It's over sexualized.
Speaker 3:Like versus just oh, this is just a beautiful woman. Yeah, she might. She not trying to overdo it, but now I'm finna, see all the other stuff that's not showing the version of what I want to see.
Speaker 1:Her keep popping up on your timeline. Now you don't like one picture.
Speaker 3:And now I see sierra like non-stop um, yeah, um, and so it'll be that you get it don't know what's actually offensive in the categories, and then you might not know if the people that's making the content they can be put in categories that might not even be of the same um intent. So you will have people that's inspiring the um link to the algorithm. That's also the people that's offensive that's that's trying to be like the inspiring people understood so you'll rather it's the keywords or whatever the case.
Speaker 3:Like that, it gets very combative and you like that's not, um, that makes it a full, not a full-time, job. But I constantly, if I want to go to my feed, I'll have to either either one just not be on social media, which that's hard to do.
Speaker 3:You, you, you do want to participate with it because it's a lot of dope stuff on there yeah but you have to constantly go and service your um discovery feed and really go and clicking into the not not interested on the things that you don't want to see, so it can slowly get it right. And then then it slowly, my feed slowly started getting it right, more so on my secondary page than the page that I have years and years.
Speaker 1:So let me get this straight. So when you see something crazy or something that you're not really trying to look for, go on into not interested. If something does pop up that ain't your cup of tea, don't stay on it long Right, because it they start to pick up that. Okay. He likes, yeah, these motivational speakers. He likes fitness, he likes Whatever it was right. Okay, so that would be Number two, and anything else you done to clean what I saw you doing. That helped, but you can't Like it Also liking the stuff you Like.
Speaker 3:So you got things like birds, nature, you got some stuff you ain't going to get wrong at all. Like, if I throw, you get something in there, like that can kind of be a buffer between, so you won't keep seeing so much of a chunk. So you won't keep seeing so much of a chunk, Like if I like beautiful women, I don't want it's eight beautiful women back to back to back to back and like that's just showing. That's all what it is.
Speaker 3:Okay, I want some birds in there some nature, some architecture, like you can. You can go into those hashtags and click on it.
Speaker 2:You can follow that. I had, I had something like that. You're right. You're right, it does do that. You know how you see the kids playing with the dogs and it's all cute and stuff. I like it. But I'll go to the next. And then, next thing, you know, I see a dog running attacking a kid and another dog's trying to protect the kid. You're so right about that. You are so right about that. Yes, I do hit the not interested.
Speaker 1:I didn't even know about this. I do it a lot. I do it a lot now, I do nothing about the not interested. I just taught me something.
Speaker 3:I need to go check it out, but if you're not sensitive to that and it don't bother you what you see on your timelines and your discovery section, if nothing don't bother you you good. Okay.
Speaker 1:No, it's the stuff I'm into for the most part, but I do see the op like I can see how I can get a little raunchy, if you want to use that word.
Speaker 1:Like how I can like it's not exactly the same, but they trying to throw something else yeah um, but even for us, well, like even every exposure clip, I you know we take our time when you know when the team is posting the content. But you, you know there is a add topics or category for Facebook, even IG. So I do want to make sure that even with our show I'm trying to associate those keywords so we do at least pop up on the right feed. It's not like unnecessary, but you're going to get, you know, entertainment, you're going to get celebrity talk, you're going to get it's a talk show, it's a podcast. So maybe I think some of that. There's a little error on the the content creator not assigning the category, because I can tell you Facebook and Instagram when you post. Now you can attach it to put it, to help it identify what kind of video it is. Right, right.
Speaker 3:So what I say about Instagram it, it, do it, instagram it, it, do it, it it do it do its job really well, so that's so. So this is what my experiment is in and that's why I attach it to the subconscious, because I had to be honest and be like you, kind of asking for some of this stuff. Uh right, they not giving you nothing that you ain't asking for. So I have, I have to um intentionally use that not interested section just to clean up what the subconscious might pull in through the?
Speaker 2:um, the suggestions and I tell you what? Let me tell y'all, boys, what I did. Real, I I don't follow a lot of celebrities, because I used to follow a lot of celebrities, right, yeah, and the reason why I did that no matter what, they still come up on your timeline. Why follow them? And they still come up like I don't follow y'all. You mentioned sierra. I like sierra a lot but I don't I follow on facebook but here we go.
Speaker 2:If I double tap a Sierra now, I get something else on there Hold up. I was trying to keep my page clean because when I be live sometimes I show my page but I don't want nothing crazy to show up on the timeline, so I'll move my browsers just to make sure not a piece of booty show up on the line when I'm live, bro. But if you do like celebrity shit, bro, it eventually pull in the rest with it, bro. Eventually it does it, bro.
Speaker 3:Your follows influence that as well, because my page I had for years. I follow so many, it have so much history on me that it know it know my I would say the old me and how I interact it, it's hard for me to change the um, the, the discovery feed, and I'd be trying, I'd be like boy, this original page.
Speaker 3:do not want me to want anything different. I go to the later one. I got it's much easier. So I could say what sucks is the people that deliver content. Very well, and this way, a part of my experiment says that certain people could be punished for putting good content. And then you have. You know, I'm going to say an example for us. Say, we did a podcast, our proximity, you know, after a while, a hundred other people made a podcast within the same proximity. Okay, now there is a competition to in a competition, but also a fight over the attention within that space of just that category of the podcast, and the platform knows this, but it's trying to do its best at sharing it. So, even if you're delivering the best quality content or something somebody else needs, you can be punished because you'll end up uplifting everybody else. And if they're I want to say more more aggressive or can even even um, engage in a negative way, they can be rewarded over you so some of these wellness people that I might follow and they're.
Speaker 3:They are really amazing at what they're saying. Now, guess what? I'm going to get a whole bunch of people who are horrible at it, and some of them might be trolls in some sense, but the algorithm is trying to match it, so it's matching the conversation as well. So you end up getting a person coming under them that's saying they're opposite of the other one. You end up seeing this linkage and it turned into one conversation and it can throw you off because you're like all right, now, now that's me following the guidance of the people. That's really good.
Speaker 3:And you listen. You're like, wait, one person saying this, yeah, then this person saying this, oh, but then this person like this. So you're trying to like what you do like. And then you're like wait, my feed is now engaged in the argument and it's being contradictive. And then you really start seeing the people who ain't good. So now you're like who I wouldn't say ain't good? They don't fit you. But it can throw you off because you want you are wanting to see on your social media content that make you want to stay there and feel comfortable in there without being too offended or having to engage and be entertaining, and stuff that just ain't really helpful at all for where you at. And I started to feel bad for the ones that do things well, because I'm like man, I want to like your content but I'm going to have to pay for it Because the algorithm is going to start sending me other stuff that I don't want in my feed and I would like to like it.
Speaker 2:Some people you can't even follow.
Speaker 3:It's like it hurts you because you're like man. I want to like this. I want to support it. I want to follow it. I like it hurts you because you're like man. I want to like this. I want to, you know, support it. I want to follow.
Speaker 1:I want to do that but you ain't trying to see muscles all on your timeline, yeah, and the person.
Speaker 3:And the person might not even know that, hey, I like what you got going on, yeah, but you don't know what it's gonna cost me yeah and what I'm gonna have to fight yeah in the algorithm world.
Speaker 3:Yeah, just to support what you're doing and watching what you're doing, I'm gonna have to see so much of everything else and it make you kind of get away from you know, supporting what you would like to support because you, you know the algorithm do it so good, but it's the human side of things to where we're pushing. We're making content that can probably be offensive and be used in the algorithms to just still generate what its purpose purpose is, whether it's ads or just attention or whatever that uh case may be. So I say that to say sorry if I don't be liking certain people, pictures and stuff like that.
Speaker 1:That uh now you, you, you, this was, um, I don't think a lot of people are aware how it works. I think it was a really good observation and a good study. Right, because it's a good study? Because I, I know what the ar2 like when these acts be asking you, hey, do you want this? Uh, will you allow this app to track you? Or, you know, allow or not allow?
Speaker 1:But like it's so powerful, eric, because, like even the, the, the retailers, the big industries out there, when, when those folks do accept, like we was being taught by Boar's Head, their meat distributor in cheese, like they have data on people, like they got reports out there that tell you, ok, if you got off this plane, let's say, like they know the individual, if they got off this plane in this city and they come from this field, for whatever they know, they would go to this hotel, they go to this gas station, they go to this coffee shop in the morning. Like it is so much information, like they literally get to know you without knowing you. And that's that information that companies want to buy. Like if I was so close or if I, whatever product I had to sell, I would know that, oh, oh, they like this car. They can literally set up a trap, knowing that, ok, from this hotel to this gas station, I need to put my business right here this is what they like.
Speaker 1:And it's like I was, like I knew it's one thing to know what kind of city, how old and what phone they was using. Now I'm like they know, know you how powerful that is for a company to have that information? It's the algorithm outside of the phone if you start to kind of think about it, because now it knows what you like. Um, so very powerful data out there, man, very powerful what they doing.
Speaker 2:But hey, question so if I watch a video for over five seconds.
Speaker 1:It's like saying I like it. It knows, yeah, you're gonna get more of it. To eric's point you're gonna get more of it. That's how my tiktok works. I watched one video of this damn alligator eating uh, uh one of them uh gazelle one of them gazelles at the goddamn edge. And then I stayed long enough because I'm like where's that?
Speaker 1:where's gonna come. It grabbed that sucker dog out of nowhere and all, all of a sudden, dog, I got the Discovery Channel on my TikTok. Now dog, I got all animals getting giraffes running and bulls running.
Speaker 3:And.
Speaker 1:I'm like, I didn't like it. I just watched that bit long enough.
Speaker 2:And.
Speaker 1:I'm like God damn it. And then one dude got me.
Speaker 2:It starts off with the Discovery guy voice All the next thing you do is yeah, and it starts off with the Discovery guy voice All the next thing you do is yeah.
Speaker 1:And then another one got me was the cleaning the cars. The dude took the whole inside apart the cleaning.
Speaker 2:I watched that all day.
Speaker 1:And then I was just like damn, this is impressive. The nigga took off the dashboard. Now, all of a sudden, I'm getting these videos. I'm like oh my god Bro, it's all. Asmr bro Am I, they ASMR bro Am I.
Speaker 2:They're cleaning in the cracks in the bed, yeah, yeah, and then the sound effect. Yeah, all-ass ASMR bro, they don't say not one word.
Speaker 3:Yeah, some categories you can't go wrong, like the ASMRs. You're not going to see nothing that's too far off in the ASMR category. Certain things like bike riders and stuff like that, certain areas just ain't going to get wrong. Yeah, bike riders and stuff like that, certain areas just ain't going to get wrong when you get into specifics like whether it's politics, whether it's music there's certain areas that the memes that just got quotes of astrology stuff that get very very specific, it'll start feeding you so much and not everybody and this is me judging, but not everybody qualified to do some of this stuff.
Speaker 3:Well, and I'm like you. You see how the unqualification can damage and really shape a perspective around stuff. I say this by um, the astrology people. You know how to. They'll read certain astrologies and they'll give their opinions on them, how they are most I won't say most, there's many that be the ones that's most entertaining, I'll say they'll depict these signs in like a negative light, like they'll. They'll be judging it, they'll be grading it correctly, but instead of seeing the positive, expressing it and explaining the sign positively, they're explaining like the negative stuff which ain't even ain't necessarily true because the circumstances could make, let's say, a Virgo come off like not somebody you would want to cross, but that's because of the circumstances. They don't have nothing to do with what a Virgo really is, have nothing to do with what a virgo really is. And so you grading it off of the circumstances, of certain reactions, and putting it out there is, that's how that sign is. And now you got a lot of people from the following accepting that as them, when really that's not what they are. That makes sense, yeah, and then it started.
Speaker 3:It started shaping stuff and I started seeing nothing but the negative side of things. And now it is some people that do astrology will present the beautiful side, but, right, they are outnumbered by the ones that can be very entertaining, that can be very um, you know, theatrical, or just got the time and the following, or whatever the case may be, and they do very good, the performance is very good, but it's not. It's not um. Showcasing the beneficial side of the intent is really just looking at it like, hey, I'm going to put a bunch of Scorpios in this condition. Then, based on how they behave in circumstances, that's not suitable for them. Now we're going to take the data and that's how we're going to describe the Scorpio. That's how we're going to describe the Scorpio Really. It's unfair, because you can't really describe any sign or any character trait and grade them off of horrible conditions. That wouldn't make no sense. I'd make you weigh some high heels and tell you to run a 4-4, and they'd be like, oh, he's slow.
Speaker 2:That's a crazy analogy for it, but absolutely.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he running slow, that's all I'm saying to you. I'm like, oh you ain't going to mention that you made him wear high heels. He had to put his hands in his pockets.
Speaker 2:No, no, no.
Speaker 3:That's just the way they are.
Speaker 2:One of the changes that they did that I do enjoy a lot, because I remember one of the companies was sitting in court. I don't remember which social media it was, but they were saying out in China, way out there, the algorithm would always show them something, a life hack or something positive on their feeds, and we weren't getting that down here in the us.
Speaker 1:Tick tock, yeah, tick tock in china is not the same tick tock that we have over here is what they say okay.
Speaker 2:So I think the other medias, the other social medias, heard that and they changed it up. Like I get a lot on my feed, a lot I like, I love the life hacks. I get a lot of good life life hacks, a lot of like the ways to cook a good, you know, quick breakfast or things you should be aware of, and and your health, and I get a lot of that, not just because I like it, but we didn't. I didn't used to get none of that back in the day, but I'm, I'm I'm hoping it's not just me. You know what I'm saying, that that's seeing the life hats and um, showing videos that ladies should be aware of signs that people leave on your car, and saying that you're being tracked and all these other um, you know, these videos that can help people in their daily lives.
Speaker 2:I didn't used to get that back in the day. Um, I don't know if these guys did something now the rhythm to you know, to make it more visual and on people's feeds, but I think that's one thing that I really like that they're doing, you know, especially with the cooking stuff, with the food and stuff like that. That part is real dope to me. But yeah, that's the only change I've seen that has happened over the years. That, I think, is dope when it comes to social media and you're talking about, like the Instagram and Facebook.
Speaker 1:You're seeing this on.
Speaker 1:Because, you don't got contact, I don't have contact. Okay, well, maybe the world won't have it soon, or at least the US. We'll see. We'll keep y'all posted. Well, I wanted to touch base on that on the next episode. Hopefully we'll see. I don't know if they're going to make the decision by then, but I know they're really pushing, they're really pushing the band that. So we'll see, uh, what that takes us, man, and uh, that's all. Uh, that's all we really got for the day, man. I, you know we really wanted to keep it not too too crazy long and catch up and touch base and give content. But, um, you know, we'll go back to some interviews after this episode, for sure, and you tuned in to another episode of exposure and we are it's more than just a podcast.
Speaker 2:It's exposure.
