Xposure Podcast
More than a Podcast, it's a Movement! Xposure is the latest platform to shed light on all things “South Florida” and beyond. What started as an outlet for local musical talent, has grown into a universal stage for musicians, producers, marketing executives, small businesses and entrepreneurs from various industries. Each episode provides its listeners with a behind the scenes glimpse into the lives of average people making exceptional contributions to their communities, or significant advancements within their trade. Watch as guests, field experts and artists expose the reality of their experiences; While revealing the contributions to their successes, failures and current life status.
Xposure Podcast
Episode 24: Goals, Grids, and Game-Changers: Transformative Visions, TikTok's Turmoil, and Battle Rap's Raw Artistry
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Hosted by: The Global Zoe, Drego Mill & Vandam Bodyslam
What if setting goals could transform not just your career, but your relationships too? Join us as we kick off 2025 with a refreshing perspective on personal growth and maintaining your street cred. We'll explore how vision boards and calendars can keep your aspirations on track, especially with friendly competition elevating bonds. While we're at it, we’ll share our excitement for upcoming events like the Super Bowl and Valentine's Day, and why Lamar Jackson is the star to watch this season. Plus, we'll dream about a fairer NFL division system that lets the best teams shine.
Switching gears, we tackle the potential TikTok shutdown in the US and its ripple effect on artists and creators. Discover how this platform has been a game-changer for music and what could fill its void—enter Fanbase, a promising alternative. We share our take on social media quirks and the maddening algorithms of Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. We break down the buzzing Miami music scene and ponder the impact of mentorship and community support in places like Palm Beach, spotlighting up-and-comers like Rob Revenue who are shaping the future of hip-hop.
Finally, we turn our spotlight to battle rap, celebrating the raw artistry and skill of icons like Remy Arsenal and Murda Mook. We reminisce about standout performances and examine the challenging balance between artistic integrity and industry pressures. Whether it's the intricacies of live performances or the evolving expectations of fans, we navigate it all. Join us on this journey through music, culture, and sports, leaving no stone unturned as we continue to bring you "Exposure" in its most captivating form.
⏰ Chapter Markers ⏰
0:00 - 2025 Vision Boards and Playoffs
11:07 - Social Media Platform Discussions
17:59 - Miami Music Scene Discussions
27:07 - Miami Artists' Perspectives on Top 25
36:12 - Palm Beach Rapper's Unique Journey
40:09 - Palm Beach Artists and Community Support
53:12 - Local Artists' Challenges at Sunfest
58:29 - Palm Beach Hip-Hop Scene Discussion
1:07:33 - Artist Authenticity vs Industry Pressure
1:18:27 - Modern Trends in Live Performances
1:27:00 - Battle Rap as True Artistry
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What's going on? I be your boy, the Global Zo, and you are tuned in to another episode of Exposure, and I'm with the gang. Drago Mill.
Speaker 2:Van Damme Body Slam.
Speaker 1:So what it do and today's show is brought to you by the one and only Sovereign Brands Exposure Official Drink of Choice. Now we're going to get straight into it. Man, it's 2025. How y'all boys feeling? It's all about exposure. You need the exposure. You gotta touch the streets. You need that street credibility, you need that promotion and that's what exposure provides for the peace. Welcome to the MIA, grinding, like I always do, watchin' exposure Gettin' hit in the head with that exposure.
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Speaker 3:Now Y'all check it out you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Keep it locked all over Florida and you are watching Exposure Lovely. New year, new everything. Hey man, new goals, feeling great, you Lovely.
Speaker 3:New year, new everything. Hey, man, new goals feeling great. You know I'm excited for the year. A lot of new music coming soon.
Speaker 2:Yes, sir, and that too.
Speaker 1:And that too. Let me ask, man, but are y'all the type that like to set? Do you believe in setting goals before we jump into the new year, or you just keep working, or do you really like? Do you have a vision board? Do you have a vision board, do you write it down, or you just keep working and it is what it is?
Speaker 2:I'm not going to lie. Since I got a little older, I'm on that type of vibe. Now I got a calendar and I got a board. I'm on that type of time of writing down all my goals, what I want to do for the week, what I want to put out, and sticking to that plan, because I feel like if you write it and you see it, it's different from just freestyling it. You know what I'm saying? Heck, yeah.
Speaker 3:Heck, yeah. Yeah, I feel the same way too. I feel like when I was younger I didn't really care.
Speaker 1:I didn't say I didn't plan, I didn't do none of that. But yeah, now that you know we got a little more, you know wiser, definitely got a board and definitely got goalset definitely heck. Yeah, now I use notes a lot too. Um, you know, I'm saying I use notes on, you know, an iphone. Shout out to notes in the iphone, but I definitely map everything out in there and I did want to try that this year. Uh, you know, I do got a vision board. Uh, I heard a lot of success about it. So I did get a vision board this year and I'm gonna see how that works, because I got, like my to-do list.
Speaker 2:Could you explain that to me like what is a vision board?
Speaker 1:vision board is. I mean, there's different kinds you know, and some people cut out certain things that motivate them, inspire them and put it all together on it and write down the goals.
Speaker 1:So this vision board is kind of like things I want to accomplish and my to-do list and within a time frame. So as I'm going, you know I mean I'm just checking it off, I'm using it like in that sense to check it off. But now you can actually look at like that reminder is, you're looking at it every day. So you know, when I get into the studio I'm looking at it like damn, I keep working towards that goal because we got to get that off the off the checklist okay, right, me and the lady got one like that.
Speaker 3:Like so, every time we walk into a room we got to split down the middle. It's a big board, so every time we walk in the room we can't miss it. So we always see it and we can't forget it.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, we got one like that too so you've been on it for a minute then uh, since last year yeah okay, and how's it work? Like now tell me. I don't know, because I just started. So how do you? Is it working for you or like what? What are? What are the pros and cons? Like do you have?
Speaker 3:I hate to say it's competition, but it's kind of like local competition that I'm clearing my side first, but it's friendly competition, you know what I'm saying. So it's like every time she see one clear on my side she's like oh my god, babe, she's like, all right, I, I gotta get on my shit, or, or, don't worry, next year is where it really starts for me. So it's friendly competition, but it works and it's really good for the relationship. I'm not going to lie, it really is All right.
Speaker 1:That was for the I never heard and I don't know about duos doing it, but that's good to hear. That, though, man yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That is good to hear that. Keep it coming. Keep it coming now. Keep it coming, bro. Outside of that brother. The playoffs is here. I don't know if y'all you know super valentine coming up, because I know you got the super bowl, then valentine's day is usually a couple of days. That's been going on for like the past couple of years now, man. So how y'all feeling my team is out, I'm a cowboy. Get that out the way. So we out of there, we out of there. I'm rocking with lamar, you're rocking with.
Speaker 2:Okay, I was about of there, I'm rocking with Lamar, you rocking with Lamar. Okay, I was about to say.
Speaker 1:I'm rocking with Lamar too, I am. I'm rocking with.
Speaker 3:Lamar, I guess I'm a I'm a low key hater of my team, so I like him, but I hate on him at the same time. The Dolphins I hate on them, you know, I hate on them at the same time. But yeah, we out. But you know, I'm going to roll with the Lamar, you with Lamar, you with Baltimore too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's good. That's good. Well, we got to show up. We know the trend for Baltimore. We know they struggle in the playoffs. You know what I mean. We know they always make it, but they tend to struggle in the playoffs and Slam I feel like you know. You're a football expert. So what do you think they need to do different? Is there anything you've seen that needs to be done differently to win against?
Speaker 2:the Steelers. I think honestly they're doing different already. Like Lamar is throwing more, he's throwing the ball more. You know what I'm saying. It's not all on him to figure it out. You know he got Derrick Henry back there, so it's like he got weapons. Now zay flowers I don't know if zay flowers is injured he's not playing this game, apparently.
Speaker 1:The knee, yeah, the knee, yeah, that's what everyone's saying. They count him out like do he have enough weapons without zay?
Speaker 2:like that's the why, yeah, zay is not playing oh man, yeah, I said the same thing, but you got mark andrews, you got likelyly.
Speaker 1:You know, you still. You know them boys, you still got them. That duo is still dangerous.
Speaker 2:I like it, but you need them, weapons, man. Like even Tom Brady needed weapons. Like you need weapons, bro, and not just one or two, you need multiple.
Speaker 1:Yeah. That way you know it's spread out, you know what I'm saying and I'm with you like yeah, but we said derrick henry, we know, we know, we know the backfield straight right, we between lamar, derrick henry, we know we got that, but with likely and mark and mark andrews is gonna get a solid, what 80, 80 to 100, you know I feel always what you always do yeah, who, who's gonna be?
Speaker 1:that step up guy he would have no choice. I feel. I feel like he's always got the. He always amazes me at least for me when I watch Baltimore. He's always going to have them two or three unique catches. You know what I'm saying throughout the game those are always guaranteed with likely, but now the amount of touches I'm not used to. You know what I mean Because I know what Zay he led.
Speaker 2:That. This is what I got in my head. If you're going to the Super Bowl, Lamar Jackson, you're going up against Patrick Mahomes. You've got to get past Patrick. Everything got to be perfect.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 2:I just it got to be, because that's like going up against Brady. He is literally the new Bradyady. To me, it's like for sure, no matter what this man finds a way, his team that's the thing. It's not even just him, his team finds a way to make sure they win, win. So I don't know now. I ain't gonna lie. I ain't even that much confident, no more. I'm confident in Lamar Lamar going to do his thing, but is the team going to do their thing? That's the thing.
Speaker 2:And if he gets knocked off if he does. We don't want that.
Speaker 1:If he does happen to get knocked off, do you think he still deserves the MVP if? You can't take that team over the hump. For sure, for sure, because now it's looking like it's just a statistic thing, like when it just comes to stats. Because then what if Josh Allen advances? I'm just saying, Although he doesn't have the best stats he's up there. Does that change the narrative of who deserves the mvp?
Speaker 2:I think the mvp is based on regular season. I don't think it should have nothing to do okay okay, yeah, yeah, for me I don't think it has anything to do with the playoffs or who advances sometimes the mvp, not even in the playoffs or on a winning team. You know what I'm saying. For sure, if you had the best season, you, you had the best season. I feel like Lamar has had that.
Speaker 2:He's doing things. That's history, not on his team, but history. This is a season where he did things that's never been done in history, and for them to say he should have been a running back, I feel like that just stamps it even more.
Speaker 1:He proved them wrong, you know what. I'm saying oh, did he prove them wrong?
Speaker 2:Exactly, but I like Josh Allen, he runs, you know what I'm saying and they don't give him flack for that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but they give Lamar flack for it. You know, I feel you. They kind of like take him out of his game, but they let Josh Allen run and they don't, you know.
Speaker 1:You know, say he should have been running back.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right right, right so.
Speaker 1:I don't know man.
Speaker 2:If Lamar gets knocked off out of the playoffs, I still think he should get the MVP of the league.
Speaker 1:I'm with you, I'm with it, I'm with it.
Speaker 3:I'm with it, Draco, you with it. You MVP for him too. He definitely deserves it. I feel like he deserves it yeah.
Speaker 2:I already tweeted him and told him he getting it I already tweeted him. Hey, next MVP, yeah for sure.
Speaker 1:That's on.
Speaker 2:Twitter.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Damn dog, you know maybe I'm tripping. I haven't used Twitter in. I forgot Twitter.
Speaker 2:I forgot all about the X, is it X? It's all about the X here.
Speaker 1:Okay, I forgot all about X. Man Damn you ain't the only one.
Speaker 2:All my homies done fell off on me.
Speaker 3:I couldn't get with it, man, I couldn't get with it. I tried, I really did, but I just couldn't, man.
Speaker 2:And I just go on there and tweet. I'm not going to lie. Every now and then I go on there and swipe up, but man it done turned into a whole. Yeah, man, it ain't something you can open up in public, like I can't be with my kids and swipe on Twitter Like I can't be in public at work and swipe on Twitter.
Speaker 3:You don't know what's going to?
Speaker 2:pop up on there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know yeah. No it's crazy man. No, it's crazy.
Speaker 2:It's crazy, yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 1:But I'm excited, I can't wait to see man. And you know Kansas City always been doing their thing, so we can't take away from Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey what they accomplished.
Speaker 2:I'm taking away from them.
Speaker 3:I do not want to see.
Speaker 2:Patrick Mahomes win another Super Bowl Tired of him Bruh, he low-key, got your boy effect.
Speaker 1:He got that Brady effect, man.
Speaker 3:Right Low-key. That's that greatness bro. That's that greatness bro.
Speaker 2:That's that greatness. I guess I see how. No, I don't see how, because I still don't want them to lose. But I'm not saying, I'm just tired of seeing the same team.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I want to see a new team end up with them at least play a different team.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 2:I wish that Lamar could play them in the Super Bowl. That's what I wish. I think they need to change that man. I think they need to change the divisions and how they all man the best team, play the best team.
Speaker 3:You know what?
Speaker 2:I'm saying, yeah, come on, it's teams that should have made it to the Super Bowl but they got knocked out because they played a better team in they same division. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Speaker 1:No, I'm with you. That makes sense. No, I'm with you. No, I'm with you. Switch it up. We gonna find out after this weekend, boy. We gonna find out after this weekend, man, when we, when we do our next episode, by the time we do, we'll be having a whole different conversation, for sure, for sure. And how y'all feel about tiktok shutting down, man, they saying on the 19th. You know I'm saying they're trying to. You know they might officially shut that thing down in the US.
Speaker 2:Oh, you almost had me Boy. I was about to say it's gone.
Speaker 1:Not yet.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm on TikTok.
Speaker 1:I'm on TikTok.
Speaker 2:I got an artist page and I got a gaming page.
Speaker 1:Alright, my dog, drago, ain't messing with. Drago had a password issue and he just said forget it.
Speaker 2:I'm not gonna lie TikTok be hating, though I'm not gonna lie, tiktok is a funny app they be hating like certain songs I post and then they'll take the sound off. Certain clips I post like, and I don't even say nothing crazy, and they still take the sound off so they mute it, like when you saying that they mute you, yeah, yeah so.
Speaker 1:Slam. You gotta keep it under a minute under a minute yeah, if you go over a minute they want you to, because I think, the way they got the license, that you would have to assign the music in the catalog which they have the license and that stream points or however, that revenue goes back to the artist. But if it's over a minute they'll mute you. So you got to keep it right at that 59-second mark. You should be good posting your music as long as it's not offensive.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, I didn't understand it for a minute.
Speaker 1:I kept struggling and I realized when I kept it under the minute I was good, it kept my footage up.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, because that kind of got me discouraged. I my footage up. Oh okay, yeah, because that kind of got me discouraged. I'm not gonna lie, but not a lot because of that. Trust me, all my homies be like bro. Why you ain't supposed to be putting them like bro. They be taking my sound off like and I will literally post a song and it will be my video, and somebody else post it, and then they let them keep it up and it's over a minute, but, bro, but is it under?
Speaker 1:I can't remember okay, follow up on that why are they keeping it on your page?
Speaker 2:and it's on mine and I was like they taking the sound off on mine yeah, I don't know, tiktok funny bro.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I would say, watch that because the artists like and I get it, like I. I could only imagine if you was on a big platform. You know the big of the artists and you know there's a platform that's using your record and you don't benefit from it. I think that's where they have to watch it and be careful, because I think, when I look at my analytics, you generate revenue from tiktok, when people using the record as an artist oh, okay, yeah, there is some kind of revenue and I ain't gonna be no big, big stream. It's not like a Spotify or Apple, but you generate something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you do get money, yeah.
Speaker 2:I need all my coins.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's it, and I think that's why it has to be a certain time frame for them to be safe, because after that I started watching a lot of other artists that do post their clips If they don't attach the record. I know this is under a minute, they don't attach the record.
Speaker 2:I know this is under a minute. Okay.
Speaker 1:And I'm glad you're on TikTok and Drago. You got to figure it out. If it stays, bro, you're going to have to jump ship. Just because we know social media, we know how important it is, we cannot have that mind frame that we too big for it, we don't need it, especially with TikTok because it's broken a lot of artists.
Speaker 2:I know records. I get some views on that bro. Like even with my game and stuff like I get 6,700, 800 views, and I just started it. That's what.
Speaker 1:I'm talking about. And another thing is like I can't tell you how many records I know, whether it's the hook or a certain part of the verse.
Speaker 1:I can't even tell you who's singing yet yet. But by the time I hear it I'm like I know this song. You know what I'm saying, and I would either. I find some new talent. There's a few r&b cats. I love discovering r&b on tiktok, you know what I'm saying, and I add it straight to my playlist. Once I find that record, I'm like, oh, is this out? And I catch myself adding them to my um r&b playlist, etc.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you gotta put me okay, so we can't sleep on platforms bro we can't sleep, you know and while I'm on it
Speaker 1:um, there's a new one, um that someone just sent to me yesterday. It's called fan base. Uh, yeah, fan base. Okay, um, I just created an account and it it's. It's gonna serve the same purpose, like it's here, just in case another one goes. This one is um I forgot the name of the folks man. I see him on podcasts talking about artistry and record labels. I don't know his name. I know he's smart or knowledgeable, but I think it's funded by him. It's called Fanbase and it's here to just serve the artists. There's no shadow banning, there's no gimmick to it. It's just artists. You create, you generate revenue and you gain an audience.
Speaker 3:So y'all might want to look yeah, look in the fan base if you don't have ron leslie no I know ron leslie, it's a bald-headed dude.
Speaker 1:He got a beard, um he kind of heavyset, but global's low. Yeah, no, it ain't me bro. Damn drake, don't fill out the chip. Nah, it ain't me, fam, it ain't me.
Speaker 2:You done got a secret investment on me.
Speaker 3:It ain't me.
Speaker 1:He's in the bag without trying to tell who's in the bag. Nah, man, I ain't going to leave my dogs not knowing, because I just made it in the cap before I jumped on man. So I'm like nah, let me tell y'all boys to sign up with it, man.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna go ahead and check it out when we get out.
Speaker 1:I don't think it's gonna affect too much, but I guess we'll see what's going on. And because I don't know if y'all know, they say the TikTok we have in thes is not the same that's in china.
Speaker 2:That's fact y'all heard about that that they got a cleaner version, a more safer version okay, yeah, that's what they need to do.
Speaker 1:They need to do that to x oh, you be seeing some crazy stuff on x, right, what?
Speaker 2:you can see anything, anything, everything.
Speaker 3:Bro, it works like this. That's what I was telling you, bro. Let's just say you like someone's status right, and you don't follow them. Whatever you like, it goes on my timeline and it showed me what you will actually like. So it's scary. So let's just say Van Damme, like I'm going to just throw it out, I'm going to just throw it out, I'm going to just throw it out there. Let's just say you watched a flip of someone going at it.
Speaker 2:Now it's going to come on my timeline.
Speaker 3:I'm like why are you showing me what he?
Speaker 2:like yeah, yeah, I get what you're saying. That's not safe. I see a whole lot of people Like all day I'm seeing people that I don't follow, like I Like I tweeted Elon Musk a thousand times like bro, make this shit go back how it was. Like I don't follow these people. Why am I seeing they tweets Like get rid of the follows? What is the following for If you still showing me people that I'm not following. Like If you pay attention to IG.
Speaker 3:It's starting to do the same thing. Facebook too. So I started unfollowing celebrities. I started following. Unfollow. I see them regardless if I, if I don't follow them.
Speaker 2:I see they put, I got you, so yeah hey, forget that I'm knocking down my follow list.
Speaker 3:If I'm gonna see they post regardless, unfollowing, and you still see it, that's interesting, ain't no point of following them yeah, damn boy, that algorithm.
Speaker 2:A beast dog and it'd be like clickbait bro. It's a lot of like emotion stuff to draw you in, like I get on twitter, like when the kendrick and drape beef, was it just? Was a lot of that bro people just a lot of opinions and I'm like I'm looking, I'm like I don't even follow this person like why so?
Speaker 1:why is it yeah?
Speaker 2:seeing people talking about this. Why am I seeing these tweets if I don't even follow this person? Like, why would I get it? I don't want to keep seeing people talking about this. Why am I seeing these tweets if I don't follow them? Like, it literally gets you mad, bro. Like you know what I'm saying. Like I don't get it. I don't get why it's like that.
Speaker 1:Now, Then y'all boys going to put me on something. Then I got to yeah, that's interesting, that, that's interesting, that's interesting.
Speaker 3:I don't follow this person, but you always see news from them, always.
Speaker 2:You don't have to follow people. I will mute them, block them and I still will see them, bro.
Speaker 3:I would say not irrelevant, so they don't show up, pop up, and they still pop up bro.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they done changed that app, bro, that app is wild, I'm not going to lie.
Speaker 3:That one's worse, bro, that that happens a lot.
Speaker 2:I'm not gonna lie that one's worse um thread is the same way. Yeah, I don't even use threads like that. You don't use threads like that. I got it, but I don't go on there like okay, every now and then I say something on it, but I'm not on it every day I got you.
Speaker 1:No, that's that's. That's cool, it's more filtered than the other one.
Speaker 3:I'm. I'll have to throw that out there. It's way more filtered, just the x. Way more.
Speaker 2:Because it's everybody else just saying their thoughts and posting their pictures, right?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a whole bunch of fights and porn and all type bro.
Speaker 3:It's crazy, that's all.
Speaker 2:X is bro, it's no.
Speaker 1:Y'all pay for X. I thought there was something about a membership.
Speaker 3:It's IG.
Speaker 1:It's IG. No, not threads.
Speaker 2:X. No, not threads x. Oh no, there's no membership. That was a rumor. Yeah, if you want to have a um check now you got to pay for it. Oh, okay, okay, yeah, if you want to have a check, you got to pay okay I was sure they paying a monthly subscription even celebrities crazy that's crazy.
Speaker 1:I didn't know.
Speaker 2:I didn't know people was leaving, saying they was going to leave and stuff and they wasn't going to pay. But they stayed. Lebron James was one of them. Yeah, they took LeBron's check away. You going to pay? Yeah, yo, you got to have that because you know people do anything. Let's just say somebody else get a fake LeBron page and they get it verified. And now everybody thinking that's the verified LeBron James page you get what I'm saying yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:That'll cause damage to your, you know. Hell yeah so he had to play alone. You got to what you going to do.
Speaker 1:This is true. No, I'm with you.
Speaker 2:Your likeness up in the limbo, what you going to do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, go do. Yeah, that's crazy. No, that's crazy. So in miami you know, I'm saying moving down a little bit down south, about 45 minutes to an hour, depending on the type of day in the traffic, you know what I'm saying they created their top 25 list for the artists. Um, you know, palm beach was in the uproar when we drop ours, you know what I mean. The city was on fire and now it's calmed down. But miami, done, dropped theirs. First there was one for florida, you know, and I and I think a lot of people was like, oh all, right, we, we stirred the pot and then they created with the one for miami no, I know I share with this person on now.
Speaker 3:I didn't see it, I didn't see Palm Beach person on there.
Speaker 2:Everybody's so happy to help others from us, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yes, sir, yes sir. So you know what I'm saying. So they got the top 25, you know on there. So we got folks like Uncle Luke, you know, rick Ross, trick Daddy Pitbull, jt, money, money, trina, flo Rida. We got Billion Bird, you got the City Girls. You got Denzel Curry, which I've got a chance to do A little research on him. I never knew he was from Miami. I know his music is a little different.
Speaker 2:He know about the crib for sure. Yeah, I was about to say. I was just about to say he know the whole, he know all about Spro, the DVDs. You know every freestyle I done dropped on the DVD.
Speaker 1:Oh, so you been on him, then you been on him.
Speaker 2:He been on me, oh, okay.
Speaker 3:Okay gotcha, it's the other way around. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:I didn't.
Speaker 2:I guess I heard the name most of these guys it's the other way around, like even Berg, I'm older than Berg when I met Berg. I was like what up, bro? And he was like bitch, bitch bro. Like bitch, you older than me. I'm only 25. Like what the fuck? What? Berg just came out, as you know as a youngin, so I always thought Berg was older, you know yeah a lot of these cats. I'm'm a big homie too.
Speaker 3:I ain't saying big homie, I don't make big homies, yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Understood. I was out before them. No, understood. You got the boy Ball, greasy, uh-huh. You got Major Nine. You know what I mean. We got Briscoe, mike Smith, billy Blue, for sure, and the Chris goes on.
Speaker 2:My brother, mike Smith man, a real, real, real, one man. Anytime I hit him anytime I call him for anything never switched up, never changed. I know a lot of guys who hit their pinnacle and then just you know what I'm saying. But, bro, one of the ones anytime I hit him, he uh, bruh, let's knock it out, shit, I'm on the way when we gonna do it at how you wanna do it. Always the same way, bruh. Never changed up.
Speaker 1:And y'all got a record together, right?
Speaker 2:We got a few records.
Speaker 1:Okay, I know, I seen a video. I feel.
Speaker 2:I'm way back.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Even before that, that's what I'm saying. Hit him, he hit back, and same for me he used to hit me and same thing.
Speaker 1:Um, he's doing the slide ain't change up, same way. He's still the same way, bro.
Speaker 2:Yeah he's still on the grind big respect. Right, he's doing the same thing what I'm trying to say. We need to be doing you're talking about spin the block, yeah, man, and even that, just trying to help, just give what we want, what we want. You know what I'm saying From our city and these people who got these platforms.
Speaker 2:And you know, help, that's it. There's nothing wrong with shining a light on these people. You know what I'm saying? It's only right, Absolutely. So I love that and why he's still trying to be an artist. You know most artists would be like nah, I'm going to wait.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's still lit right now and still doing it, yeah, and still doing it, still doing it.
Speaker 2:No man, I love it. I love it. It cost this much $0.
Speaker 1:$0, dog but he keeping it alive. And Drake I don't know if you've seen Spend the Block, but he picks up the rapper. They drive in the car and they put together, like a nice you know, anywhere from like eight to ten minutes a day. They top songs and they perform them live in the car while it drives through the streets. It's called Spend the Block.
Speaker 2:He was even doing the OTM Fridays before that. Like every Friday they was doing freestyles where he had somebody come up and spit a verse like even back then but way before he did started doing that. That's just new.
Speaker 3:And who's doing this?
Speaker 2:Mike.
Speaker 3:Smith, that's hard.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's tough.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I think he just did one with Busta. Free. He just did one with Busta Free and I believe he got. Billy Blue coming too, yeah, and Bruno Marley, I've been seeing him, man, I follow them.
Speaker 2:That's a lot Piccolo. You done did a couple people man.
Speaker 1:Paying homage to him, dope.
Speaker 2:Paying homage to him, the new artists too, the new artists too, you've been doing like artists that I don't even know. They just they from Miami, they from the crib.
Speaker 1:So Well, see, slim, that's family size, or everything. He has been grinding for a long, long time. Right, but no, for example, I know he younger than a lot of cats we name on that list and he's the he's one who's actually created a platform? Outside of himself and he's still showing the love to the people within that circle, because he around our generation, you get what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:I feel like the other generation up was like oh no, it's me, you get what I'm saying. It was more standoffish, like it's me. Forget everybody else. Our generation, I feel like we were like hey, hey, man, come on, let's you know what I'm saying. Push each other up. So now it's like we doing the same thing that we were going to done for us and I feel like that's what's motivating him to do that, because that's what motivated me to do everything. That's my old be your own boss. That's what I'm trying to teach. So you don't got to go through what I went through as good as the artist. You think I am look at what I went through as good as an artist. You think I am look at what I went through, so I'm trying to teach you this. So you ain't got to go through this.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean and I think that's what it's all about. It's like one hand watch the other man, the helping hand can change a lot and I feel like that can change the culture of the whole Miami scene. Just from seeing that one person do that can change the whole scenery, you know, and make ross might see that and be like damn, mike smith doing that. Man, let me tighten up and go ahead. And you know I'm saying you know, you never know who would motivate, but that's the type of things that have we have to do as artists.
Speaker 1:Man like that's a responsibility yeah, yeah it's a responsibility I like it, I like it. I hope you keep it going. You know, I'm saying Because I be tuning in. Even Busta Free, there's certain records. I was just like oh shoot, that is him.
Speaker 2:That is his record. Every time I tell, I tell both of them boys, like the underdogs on top, the underdogs on top, that's what it is, man. The underdogs is getting their shine. You just got to keep going. That's it. You got to keep going, man. Yes, sir.
Speaker 1:Yes, sir, so no man. So I guess is there anybody? Do you guys feel that you know that's not on the list you feel probably should have made it? I mean, I think it's a nice list, you know. I feel like we know, I know about 85% of that list, you know. But is there anybody from Miami that y'all heard that y'all bump and felt like damn, this person should have been on that list, or no?
Speaker 3:I haven't seen the list.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's in the chat.
Speaker 3:It's Uncle Lou Quick.
Speaker 2:Raw Trick Daddy Pitbull JT Money Trina.
Speaker 1:Flo Rida.
Speaker 2:Berg, berg City Girls. Is there, curry? Oh, number, who is that? Oh, major nine, yeah, major nine. Okay, a space goes perp. Shout out to my dog. Space goes man. A real one too man, okay, see, yes briscoe Mike Smith, billy Blue yep piccolo Mm-hmm. Jackie O, okay, lost Tribe. Lil Dredd, salute Lil Dredd. Yeah, bushy B D30 Mm-hmm. Fob. Poop, mm-hmm GK Fly. And then Soulja True Livin'. Yeah, I know bruh. Soulja True Livin' I know bruh, you look real familiar, okay.
Speaker 3:What's the timeline on this, bro Soulja?
Speaker 1:True listen. We don't know Dr.
Speaker 2:I know through Bird. I know there's Bird artists, but he a newer artist to me. I don't really know the whole scene but I feel like he a newer artist. You know D30, I don't know personally, I haven't heard of them. Fob Pook the last 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 that could be the newer generation that they put on there, but those guys I don't really know.
Speaker 2:And that's just me personally. I'm not saying that they shouldn't be on there. For me, as an outsider, looking at miami top 25, like that's tough hey, city girls should not be on there, bro.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry, that's tough.
Speaker 2:But what you mean for the new generation, yeah, yes, they carry weight.
Speaker 1:Yeah, hell bro, jackie o made the list like and jackie gave us, I think maybe one album.
Speaker 2:One album, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah. You know, All I can say for me is the last ones are questionable because I don't If we compare them to the other artists that's on that list, I feel like they should have been on the top 25 new generation Dade County rappers, you know, because these guys look younger than everybody else on here.
Speaker 1:For sure there's only one person I would. There's only one person that I had my eyes on and I know he got enough body of work. If we talk about albums, singles, radio and you know, oh, yd should be on there. Who YD YD? I was going to say kid Omar.
Speaker 2:Damn you right.
Speaker 1:But see, I feel like I'm going to take that back.
Speaker 2:I feel like that's the newer generation. Okay, I feel like they would be on the newer generation.
Speaker 1:Newer generation. Okay, it's like now. Okay, I got you. Then.
Speaker 2:Because they came after these guys. Yeah, it's hard to put them into the same category as a rick ross, a trick daddy, a flow. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:Like yeah, that's why I'm coming from. That's kind of tough.
Speaker 2:But that's just me. I'm not from there. So I, who am I? But you know, that's just my opinion. I would make a, I would have made a new generation, even with um denzel and space yeah, okay, I feel they're more in my generation to me.
Speaker 1:I feel that way that's why I was a little shocked. As I see it, I kind of feel like, well, they must be going off for some kind of credentials a little bit, because these are newer cats, because you could mention Bizzle, you know what I mean. Rest in peace, you could. You know what I mean, you can, you know you can. You can find them locals too, you know I'm saying so. That's the only person I didn't see, and I know the record he had with tokyo jet went hard, like I know the ladies were. I don't see him performing that thing in tallahassee and I mean word for word shut that bitch down even rob banks like they got yeah, that's what I'm saying man, things like these are all opinions, man.
Speaker 2:At the end of the day, nobody should get in their feelings about these type of things. You know, I know, as, as as artists, we all take our craft seriously and we love it and it's passionate and you know we don't want nobody to down us but at the end of the day, this is somebody's list and you got to respect that person, everybody over they're trying to stir the pot of the day.
Speaker 3:You're not going to win everybody over. They're trying to stir the pot, bro. That's exactly what they're trying to do.
Speaker 2:It's just what it is, bro.
Speaker 1:Slam. We're going to make a producer one and see if everybody on here is going to keep the same energy.
Speaker 3:I love it, you love it, I love it, I love it, I love it.
Speaker 2:I love it. I just feel like, at the end of the day, man, if somebody listen that person, how you gonna tell them they not credible like? You not credible, so it's like it'll just be a long argument. So, at the end of the day, man, nobody should be getting in their feelings or taking this type of thing to heart. Keep working. It is what it is, man. Keep working. Yeah, just keep working, man. You top 25 on somebody's list.
Speaker 3:I should be top 10 on everybody's list. Look out.
Speaker 2:We're being great, bro, and that's why I feel like a lot of people are not ready. Yeah, to be great, you have to be ready for that, bro. That's like you know how many people be on these people uh pages, hating, and you know I'm saying like you gotta ignore that, bro, let's go. That's what's gonna come with it. You're not gonna be the best to everybody. You, you, you, if you got the love, you gotta have the hate it's. You can't just have all one. It don't. It don't work like that, brother, right, right, it don't work like that. And you and you got to be built for that. You got to be built for it, tough for it, because the bigger your status, the more haters you gonna have. You gonna have people that love you too, but that's just, that's just what come with it, bro, and you've been out here you can't, you can't get too trapped up in the noise man no get it, let it get you off your rocker you gotta
Speaker 2:stay focused out here and I try to like I sometimes I do that. Sometimes I get so locked in and focus on the people that's not there and the people that's not. Nah, man, focus on the people who do think you are in the top 25. Focus on those people, these people over here, who don't think you're the top 25, don't worry about them. Focus on these people who do think you're in the top 25.
Speaker 1:Yes, sir, why you over here.
Speaker 2:So much giving them all the attention. Not these people over here and you ain't, you know.
Speaker 1:Yep.
Speaker 2:It's like you got to lock in on the people who locked in on you. Man, that's what it is. No, that's what I said, bro, regular life, artists, whatever it is man Just lock in with, who see you as how you see you.
Speaker 1:That's facts. I'm with you 200%. I'm with you 200% Speaking of that. So let's talk about our city and the movement we got going and what y'all hearing, what y'all seeing. I want to definitely first shout out to Triple J Happy 50th, my brother, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Man, that boy is that boy's birthday.
Speaker 3:Man that man looks like he just turned 30, man.
Speaker 2:Always man Dope man so on Sunday.
Speaker 1:January 26th he's celebrating his birthday party from 5 pm to 10 pm. He got Scarface pulling up. The one and only you know what. I'm saying that's going to be at the Riviera Beach Marina rooftop and banquet hall. They got DJs on the ones and twos.
Speaker 2:They got DJ Relo and DJ T-Mo. Og wanted to sign me. Man, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, oh yeah, that's what's up man. Uh, you know, for bottles and tables reservations, y'all gotta hit up the one and only rohan man. So you know, I definitely uh pull up and uh support that man. It's nice man, I want to. I want to be in the building to see that go down. That's legendary.
Speaker 2:So is he performing, did he say, if he performed, he ain't?
Speaker 1:say nothing. He ain't say nothing. I just know they're gonna. I just know they're going to do that thing there. So I was like, oh, that's a big thing for the city, that's dope to come out.
Speaker 2:Legendary man.
Speaker 1:Yes sir, yes sir.
Speaker 2:Legendary bro, not just in our city, but Florida period oh yeah. Florida Rap period.
Speaker 1:Rap period. Man, yes, sir, tripp, we'll see you for sure, for sure, for sure. And as far as music or any moves man, we got what Rob.
Speaker 2:Revenue yeah, man. Man is going crazy. All over social media he's going crazy. He was on Bootsy Daughter thing and then from there he just off the porch freestyling, just rapping everywhere. Man, and I feel like the city need to go ahead. You know what I'm saying. Give them that support.
Speaker 1:So he one of the ones Right now, I feel.
Speaker 2:For sure, for sure.
Speaker 1:Absolutely.
Speaker 2:He been one of the ones. He been one of the ones.
Speaker 1:I feel like he just Putting his best foot forward.
Speaker 2:Now you know what I mean. He like Putting his best foot forward and I feel like Just one of the ones that the city should. It's a couple, but I feel like just one of the ones you know we should. Let's go ahead and make it happen, man hey.
Speaker 1:Palm Beach. Let's do it. I found out about him through the. I want to say it's the Boosie platform. That performance piece did go viral and I think you know I was just like oh, where he from. And everyone's saying he's from palm beach, his own. And what I like about buddy is, you know he, you could tell this raw emotion. You know I'm saying he coming from the heart with it. You could tell this stuff he done, lived and and seen. I want to give a shout out. I don't know how big his team is or if it's just all him.
Speaker 2:The consistency piece you know what I?
Speaker 1:mean putting out that content, putting out that music, uh, hitting up those platforms. He saw it worked on this one. Let me continue to hit up other platforms and keep that momentum going. He ain't feel like he made it and stop. I feel like I'm constantly seeing him grinding and working.
Speaker 2:So, uh, shout out to the team, shout out to himself, and uh, and I feel like he did his own thing, like that's one thing I want to say. I feel like he he went his own path. Like a lot of people was hitting me up after that like why you won't go on like listen, man, everything ain't for everybody yes, sir you see a bit jump off the wall.
Speaker 2:Did you go jump off the wall too? Because you look cool like, yeah, everything ain't for everybody. Let people have their moment and have their path. Your path might be different it might not be your time, you it might not work for you how it worked for him you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Like I, I love that he. He went his own way and set his own train, following behind nobody. He ain't trying to do just the drill music how other people doing he doing his own thing. You know I'm saying giving people pain and substance music. He ain't got a hundred chains on, even though I'm probably sure he could. But he's not trying to portray an image to the younger generation, knowing they watching this.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying and that's how I come off. I'm trying to give you both sides. I'm gonna let you know both sides, the good and the bad. I ain't just gonna give you the oh yeah choke guns and be out here drilling and killing nah, man, it's stuff that come behind that. Yeah right, and it ain't good he was drilling and killing. Nah man, it's stuff that come behind that yeah, and it ain't good, for sure you know.
Speaker 1:For sure, definitely revenue. Yeah, man.
Speaker 2:For sure, let's go ahead and make that happen, man.
Speaker 1:I'll see if we can get him on the platform. That'll be dope, that'll be dope. I would love to talk to him and hear his take his story and what he trying to go with it. 1900 Rugrat was another person I've seen on the. Is it on the radar? He was on the radar too right, yeah, so I don't know if y'all know, you know they based out of New York. Who what On?
Speaker 3:the radar.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, I kind of figured, you kind of figured. Okay, I was about to say if y'all didn't know. Yeah, I kind of figured that out, oh okay.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, so I was just doing research because for some reason I thought they were Southern, because I just yeah, for some reason it felt. It just felt that way, I didn't know it was based out of New York, so that's dope.
Speaker 2:No, I knew it was New York. Okay, that's good for New York, because the way they All the artists going to New York, you know that's the only way you finna catch that many artists on your platform.
Speaker 1:But I feel like that's so now. I feel like you know how that once upon a time damn, I want to expose our age out there. But I felt like even back in the day, that's what all you knew. Like you had to go to New York.
Speaker 2:Like you felt like that's what it all was.
Speaker 1:And the South got like you, you know. Then when the stuff started, uh, making a name for itself, when we got respected, then outlets started happening outside of new york. So I guess I was a little shocked because I felt I thought it was, oh, this is another southern platform somewhere around here. And then when I heard new york, I'm like, oh, one time for new york getting back back in that groove.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying. I'd be seeing, I'd be like how they got him on there.
Speaker 3:You know what?
Speaker 1:I'm saying They'd be going to.
Speaker 2:They got Mario on there a bit singing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this ain't in the.
Speaker 3:South game.
Speaker 1:You see what I'm saying. Yeah, nah, man, it makes sense.
Speaker 2:This is NY bro.
Speaker 1:It's probably on his press run and that's dope then yeah, man.
Speaker 2:So yeah, that's where I first saw buddy I didn't know he was from my area, though I didn't either. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Shout out to my homie dj 14 yeah 14, the one who brought it to my attention oh yeah and it's about to be the biggest kid from palm beach and I'm like how you gonna say he's about to be the biggest and I ain't never heard of like I ain't, I don't know who he is. And then he was like watch, I know you seen the video. And I was like huh. He was like told him like I'm shooting school.
Speaker 3:I said yeah, yeah, that's him.
Speaker 2:He was like see like damn, that's crazy yeah, but that just shows how the city don't support like that game.
Speaker 1:So do you feel like it's because it's like the northern tip of Palm Beach that we don't acknowledge like that, like, let's be a hundred go ahead where you from.
Speaker 2:If you from the crib we post to get behind you from Loxahatchee, foxahatchee, from Delray going in. If you from Palm Beach, be from Lot's of Hatchies Fox of Hatchies be from Delray Terray Boynton. If you from Palm Beach, count my bad, my bad, delray, but if you from the Creole gang, like we supposed to support it, bro? It don't matter the type of artist, you know what I'm saying. It don't matter, it's like Kendrick LA getting behind behind. Kendrick, he's not the regular la rapper, he's not game banging, but it's his time behind him.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yes, bro, that's, that's what I was, that's what I'll be trying to explain to people when I say palm beach don't support like that, like yeah, they support, but we support what's already.
Speaker 1:Do you feel like we support what's already? Don't need it? It's already out of there when we come in?
Speaker 2:because we can't say that palm beach got him on no no, nobody can take that credit. No, it's just like g40, like another, like another, he, another youngin that's been putting in work. You know what I'm?
Speaker 2:saying like but our city don't, the whole city won't get behind the artists and push. It's just, it's too much involved, it's too much. You know, I feel like everybody's separated instead of all right, once we got this one person, that's going, let's all get behind them and go. The next person, what? All get behind them and go. That's that. That's how these people are going from their cities, bro. That's how it happens. It's not from magic, you know. Yeah, but my little homie, dj 14, shout out to him because we was talking about it yeah.
Speaker 2:We was talking about how the city don't support and how these artists. He was saying how artists change once they get on. These artists, like. He was saying how artists change once they get on. And I'm like you can't really blame the artists because if the city not supporting me, then I make it. Why am I, finna, come back to the city and show love If the city wasn't showing me love before I made it? Y'all ain't help me give Like. That's just how it is, bro.
Speaker 1:You can't get mad at these people, but do we not change that narrative though? Isn't that what we? We kind of speak on it, and this is what we kind of doing? Like we all are artists in some kind of way, but we also still love the city and what we do. Enough to say let's create platforms, let's share our knowledge. You know, I mean like you was vulnerable as hell on the first episode. You put it all out there. It was no secret of what happened, what worked for me, what didn't work for me. Hey, what y'all need to be doing if you're an upcoming artist and you know, van Damme, this is what you need to be doing. If you ain't, do like if I was coming up in this generation boy, you done dropped the gems right there, like I'm making them notes and I'm going to be okay. He said boom, he talked about be your own boy. We laying it out and we doing that.
Speaker 2:That's how the homies who raised me, that's how I was raised Right, you don't hold it in, you give it out. You get a game out.
Speaker 1:You supposed to? I don't play to coach, bro, if I get lucky. I'm just saying if it just so happens like even when I look at my own interlinks, for example, it ain't Palm Beach the number one streaming I got places in France and Paris and certain places, I got one record with a million views and it has nothing to do with my city. But that don't mean if I make like I'm just speaking for myself, right? That don't mean if I, if I got a chance to change the narrative of the city, that don't mean I ain't going to come back and put players on or give some connects and say you know what, shit, although I got a different crowd where they dance, you know what, let me have somebody else open up for me. I could make people network Like we got to. Still no.
Speaker 2:I agree. It's easy for us to say, it's easy for me. That's why I say I can't really say, because I'm not in that position. Like me personally, I used to say the same thing about football players. I used to be like bro, like how the fuck could we change Plum Beach? And like get everybody Popping around these bitches, get shit better. Like Bro, we got a whole bunch of niggas in the NFL, we got some of the most football players in the NFL. Why them boys don't come back in? You feel me? Drop bags and get everybody, get an artist. How you gonna say that when the city don't support it's easy to say that to them. But it's like you ain't helped me get here, bro. You didn't give me that push that I needed. But now that I'm here, you want me to come down here and help you now.
Speaker 3:You wasn't with me shooting in the gym. I'm on, bro.
Speaker 1:So okay, it's not everybody.
Speaker 2:Hey, once you on, come back to the city, we ain't going to support you, but once you make it, you from here. Hey, that's my dog, I went to school with him.
Speaker 1:Hey, nah, boy, okay so Boynton High football field who helped? Like you know, Lamar helped restructure that, Not Boynton High, Boynton Beach Bulldogs, Like you know, their new advance football field. He played a role in, you know, making that look presentable and appealing.
Speaker 2:He done followed me. He done retweeted some videos I post. He ain't gotta do that.
Speaker 1:But all I'm saying okay if I'm not okay if an artist makes it.
Speaker 2:That's a rare few, though, yeah.
Speaker 1:I just feel like at least put something.
Speaker 2:That's get supported. That's like me. That's like me. If I made it right now. Right, if I made it right now, I'm going to come back and show love. But a person from the outside looking in and be like, yeah, they supported Van Damme. You get what I'm saying? That's bias. Like they supported Van Damme he one of the biggest artists. So it only made sense. You get what I what I'm saying. Yeah, try to think about these artists that don't get the support like they should. Like I said, as air man, air b was supposed to go, bro was like, come on, bro. Like kendrick before kendrick. Like what are we talking about? Andre 3000, like come on, like let's get real.
Speaker 2:And he really from the crib yeah and really from the trenches this is for sure but because he might not look how I look, got dreads and dress, high dress, tattoos and everything. The city not gonna get behind it.
Speaker 1:You get what I'm saying and that's wrong no, I mean, it's tough boy, this is, this is, this is something we need to but I tell you what, if we want to get better, if we want to advance, if we want to be acknowledged, we got to figure something out we got to figure something out bro the only thing I feel it is is love from where we love where we from, bro, if everybody love, truly loves palm beach, like like miami love dade county, when you go to dade county, they love, they come, keep saying it.
Speaker 2:These places they love where they from, bro, it don't matter if it's a basketball team, football team, rappers, whatever, they just love it because they love where they from yeah you know what I mean and they rep it. We got to get back to that type of energy. That's it. We missing that in palm beach.
Speaker 3:We don't really have that no more let me go ahead, let me throw something. Let me throw something out there. I feel, um, I feel in in a way, just just for exposure, um, for palm beach, um, we got, we got events that's happening here and we don't, we don't, we don't try to take over, not really take over, but but be a part of it. So, like an example, like we have, we always have a downtown event in almost all our cities down here. Right, we got the fair, we got the fair here. Why nobody trying to go perform? Knowing that if I was hot and I had a hot song, I would have tried to find some type of contact at the fair to see if I can go perform right to get people to come out.
Speaker 2:Right now I don't know how that works, but I don't even think we in the city where that would happen, where that would work well, we gotta try, you would have to be like. I don't feel like they would even give us a chance.
Speaker 3:Listen, you see when, see now we fighting each other. Now see, you see what I'm saying. We're not, we're not even willing to even try or try to see who's the head of it, or or try to be even be. I hate to say it, but it's almost like getting into the politic wars with it. But yo, we gotta go talk to somebody to see if we can get it now, because this, this will control in our city right now yeah, it's, it's.
Speaker 3:It's in the city, so why not see if we can perform to even get it's making the city money? Yeah, to perform on stage, like like the fair.
Speaker 2:Again, the fair is here, even things like the Kravitz Center and boom stuff like that. I ride by it and I be looking at the people performing. Like not one person from palm beach perform here. Like not one artist y'all got everybody is. It could be from all over the country, but not one palm beach artist like a dirt in chicago, like you performing her. You get what I'm saying. The chief keep is performing that. That was in chicago and it wasn't that much shooting and stuff. Like they have you performing her jeezy if that was in atlanta.
Speaker 2:He's performing that little baby, he's performing her bro, right right from a place that has that vision, yet where it wants to help urban artists. If I'm making sense to you, you get what I'm saying. Where we're from is just where we're from you know, I don't think our city has that. I'm not talking about us. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got you.
Speaker 1:You know I got you. You know I'm just being real about it.
Speaker 2:You know, we from Palm Beach, we from the hood, but outside, like y'all, from where Trump been at, like it's a whole bunch of white people. That, but outside, like y'all, from where Trump done been Like, it's a whole bunch of white people. That's how it, that's the reality of it. So a lot of those people that are here don't want that Like, they don't want that energy you get what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:When we have these rolling louds or we have SunFest and stuff like that, half these people are not even from the area.
Speaker 2:Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3:Thank you, it's still showing the area love.
Speaker 2:How has, I like what you said, sunfest, that's downtown right.
Speaker 3:Right here, right here Right here.
Speaker 2:I've never performed at a Sunfest. Why, how?
Speaker 3:Why not? We don't, we're not trying to hit that door.
Speaker 1:There's a yeah now.
Speaker 2:I'm one of the biggest artists from the city. That should have been done, then.
Speaker 1:That should have been done. I could speak on some fest, though.
Speaker 2:But it wasn't at.
Speaker 1:Sunfest, okay, I want to hear Go ahead Global.
Speaker 1:No, I'm just saying I know a little bit of it because I used to get free tickets to it and stuff like that for a good amount of years. But with Sunfest they do have a website website and the artists is uh, local artists are allowed to um, I hate saying local independent artists are allowed to uh submit their music, uh. But here's the thing about uh, some fest, they, they, it's, it's they like you can't just submit and say, okay, I want to perform, they want uh, epk, I'm and I'm. Just they want like an epk, they want to know your followers on certain platforms, they want to know they give you like a good ass.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, what kind of? They do do a thorough search. So what I'm saying, hold on. But I want to say this is like the average artist, I feel, Drago, if they go on the site to register, they probably would get frustrated or don't have the, the, the, maybe the skill set or the time to fill it out properly and to submit it to really be considered. I don't see the average artist doing that.
Speaker 1:Most artists want to be able to get the call and be like hey, you performing, bad, you see what I'm saying. So now, as a independent artist, and be like hey, you performing, bet, you see what I'm saying. So now, as a independent artist and you know this is going to expose me because I see ludicrous rock the hell out of a a sunfest, by the way, you know I'm saying it's like that's a different crowd. You want to be in front of an audience that you probably don't look like you. One thing I can tell you when you perform in front of an audience that ain't a bunch of us is that if you have a website, you're gonna see your hits go from five to ten a day to 300 if you're selling merch.
Speaker 1:You're gonna sell 20 to 50 shirts if you've never sold them before. That was the biggest experience for me, when I'm reaching out to platforms that are already bigger than me and don't really need me, is that when I do attend and I get lucky, is that I do reap the benefits of being exposed to that different audience. You know what I'm saying. So some fest, it is some work, though Slam, it is some work but they're not going out.
Speaker 2:They're not going out to get artists. I understand that.
Speaker 3:Hold on hold on hold on Slam.
Speaker 2:Go ahead.
Speaker 3:We know they got. They have their, their recommending. You know their requirements to go by.
Speaker 3:So, bro, it's still home. We know that we, we, we know we got plenty of tracks. We ain't got to have that track to go and submit. We know what we would do to get our crowd, we know what song works. But if we know what we need to do, that's just one on the board, that's just one thing, and we just can work it. Bro. It's law everywhere. There's laws everywhere, bro. We just got to abide by it. Bro, we just have to. And if that's home and that's what they want, let's do it from home. We can always go somewhere else and do it. We got plenty of those areas and do it. You know what I'm saying. We can leave home and go do it, but you already know home ain't having that. We got rid of the clubs like that.
Speaker 2:We ain't got no club down here like that. That's kind of what I was saying basically. So you basically said exactly what I was saying.
Speaker 3:Bro, we just got to try to hit the door, bro.
Speaker 1:And the reason we don't have clubs is once again. I mean, you know, I was outside four or five days a week once upon a time, but we do not know how to conduct ourselves. Dog, I'm going to keep it a buck, bro, if I step on your shoes and I apologize and I genuinely look at you and you like my bad bro. Can I get you a drink? Why are we tussling for bro, like what's the like? Why you can't accept?
Speaker 2:that, see, that's, they got a flip side. That's not everywhere, though. No, it's not everywhere. That's depending on the club you go. Well, fam, I'm speaking for this is urban club.
Speaker 1:I'm talking about the only few urban clubs we had. Look the. Tko.
Speaker 2:Go ahead, wait, wait, wait. I don't like to frequent these clubs, like I don't put myself in these positions. No, and I'm giving you.
Speaker 1:I'm speaking from what I've seen, like if it's not a shootout, if it's not somebody getting stabbed. If it's not a fight, fuck up the's. Not somebody getting stabbed. If it's not a fight, it fuck up. The vibe like I'm here to have a good time. Why do I gotta see bloody murder or blood or brawl? And and I feel 75 of my clubbing experience in palm beach, that's what it led to that's what you used to have to weigh out when you get booked, Like I want to fucking book.
Speaker 1:Is my life worth this fucking?
Speaker 2:$500?. I want to get money.
Speaker 3:And just to go back, the city's like all right, we're having too much of this, we're having too much of that. The only way to cut that down is to get rid of it. Yo, we hurt ourself, bro. We hurt ourself. Go ahead. No, no, I want you to butt in.
Speaker 1:I just wanted to say and I'm not saying this is every to the point, it's not every time, but it happened way too much for my liking. Where I even started, I converted the music I made was a big reason why I went to Zumba is because dog hip-hop was at first it was already. If you wasn't popping bottles, if I wasn't 20 deep in the club, if I didn't have a, a Cuban link, I wasn't even considered a rap. I'm like, wait a minute what is this bro?
Speaker 2:yeah, a little bit older now, so we kind we. A little bit older now, so we kind of get it. Yeah, but let's just look at all the artists that's popping right now from Palm Beach. What are they talking about? What images are they pushing off? What type of music are they putting on?
Speaker 1:Gangsta music bro.
Speaker 2:Thank you, because that's what these people around here want, Not the other. But this is what. If you're not rapping by some gangster stuff, if you ain't on Gangsta Time and Palm Beach, I ain't getting behind you. So that is the energy that people, artists, are thinking they want. They don't finna make this type of music. Like if I seen all they looking up to is these type of people, I got to make this type of music and that's what artists do. Bro, we was doing the same thing back then. We thought it was cool to rap about all that type of stuff, but really it's not. But if this what all what people want to hear, this what you finna rap?
Speaker 1:Okay, I got no problem. Okay, let's, I got that. I'm cool with the music too, and I know you grow at changes. I'm good with that, but that don't mean once. I feel like the reason why I like even the promoters or the people with the money, why they're not spending it back, it's because they see every club that open. The outcome of that Nothing sticks around long enough, though, like nothing sticks around long enough.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying From.
Speaker 1:TKO to Liquid Lounge. You know, somebody gets shot. Two weeks later they change the name and it's like we try to move on, but it's like no.
Speaker 2:What security measures, yes, change the name open it up and look for new results what security measures did we put in place?
Speaker 1:yeah, exactly opening the same club so if I had a bag on the inside, you didn't do nothing, yeah so if I have a bag, I'm not gonna drop it on a club in Palm Beach because I don't see what that do. You know what I mean? And now every promoter we had they're not trying to mess with us, they do like Rohan is probably the only promoter from that era, and I mean God bless if you out there and I don't know you personally, but from the era of that, rohan is the only one who still do events and they're more upscale. You know he got black lux coming up the picnic.
Speaker 1:the black lux is a picnic outside the sunset amphitheater it's a nice set and something you bring your girl to yeah, like you know what I'm saying, but we do got people who want to do stuff in the city, but if I'm gonna probably gamble 10 bands and probably lose it, I'm not gonna do that.
Speaker 1:You got me once, you ain't gonna get me twice. You know what I'm saying. And I just want us, palm beach, to do better on that. Like, not everybody, not everything, has to be gangster. We're not saying you soft, but dog accidents happen.
Speaker 1:My g, like you know what I'm saying, I done seen a dude turn down a flyer. I'm in the parking lot it was a group of 10, like having a conversation A promoter's passing out the flyers. You know, and out of respect because I know my days at 45th I was doing it a lot with Z I always just take a flyer, dog, even if I don't want it. I take it, fold it and put it in my pocket Because, because I see you hustling, I respect you. Oh yeah, because I threw CDs on the ground right in your face. Oh, ok, ok. You know I ain't going to never, I would never dog, even if I don't want to. I'm going to take it from you, bro, because I see you trying. You know what I'm saying. I say people ain't ready, bro, I done been boy.
Speaker 1:So this situation, the Don't need it. And Buddy kind of sized them right. I thought, you know, I'm like boom, I thought nothing of it. Three minutes later he swung back around dog, jumped out the car, pistol on him. What's up now? What's up now. I showed enough. That was my sign to leave. That was my sign to leave. And I also said you know what, fat boy no more, because that was like the day I was like damn, I don't even do that, I just dip out the bat.
Speaker 2:What's going on? He left. He didn't even say bye you see what I'm saying he's slapping up, dapping up on me. Yeah, I'm gone.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, he's leaving. When TJ DJs was a thing, Draco, you ever been to the moon. You ever been to the moon? Okay?
Speaker 2:Sam, I'm sure you've been to the moon. How big is the moon? How?
Speaker 1:many people can the moon hold? I don't know.
Speaker 2:It's a big-ass club, right.
Speaker 1:How many TJ DJs I've been where we inviting all of Florida and even some of the outer places and everything went smooth. Everything do go smooth. I never saw a fight, bro or bra a shootout, and I've been to over 12 t-day djs sometimes I've never seen one.
Speaker 2:It don't be as crazy as a palm beach, but I feel like it's because everybody ot up there. You get what I'm saying. It's like you go to uh you say ot, yeah, everybody out of town. Oh, okay, okay, okay so it's like there's none of none of our career. We all going to the moon like we all going to tallahassee so I'm out of bounds, you out of bounds, they out of bounds, everybody's out of bounds, you know what I'm saying so it's.
Speaker 2:You're not just in your comfortable zone where you just finna be out trying people. You know what I mean. I'm looking for energy or like who over there. Like you know you out of town, you know yeah, it's more of a college vibe type you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Like it's more of a gathering of different people from everywhere, instead of just like oh, they go to ops from over there, like right from the hood, that's over there, from whatever. You know what I'm saying, I'm with you. It's more of a like get together type vibe than just like our clubs at home. I feel like more can happen. That's why I don't go to them, bro, trust me, I'm with y'all 100% and again, we hurt ourselves and all they did was trickle down and we lost them.
Speaker 3:And, yeah, the New Age is talking about this, talking about that, and nothing really happening. Nobody got no story to tell. Nothing's happening. That's why, you know, I honestly don't pay attention to it. Now, if, if, if it, if it's not on a hot beat or you really going in telling your story and it ain't rhyming and matching, I'm not, I'm not there. But you gotta, they gotta try harder than we did. How about that?
Speaker 1:I like what you're saying though, drago, what you're saying is on point we gotta be a little bit comfortable, being uncomfortable. You know what I'm saying. So we got to be doing the work and you got to hear the word no, don't assume Right. So I like that. I like that, though. You're saying some real shit.
Speaker 2:I think they just got to learn. It's all a learning process.
Speaker 3:It's harder about dancing music. Nothing's happening. What we were saying Nothing's happening. No more, motherfuckers ain't doing crazy shit when we was around, right.
Speaker 3:They're not doing it no more Because people used to do it not to look good but to have a story to tell behind that person. Right, oh, he did this, he did that. Now he's talking about it. None of that's not around anymore. So these kids, you know, they got to try harder. They got to try harder. There's a few of them out there. I see them but I might not remember their name. But when they get my attention they get it.
Speaker 1:That's what's up.
Speaker 1:No that's what's up. I'm on it, man, I'm on it. I like that conversation. That was good. That was good. Yeah, that that was good. And let's talk about, um, uh, the bringing on home, and I want to talk about rolling loud. Uh, as we know, as we're talking about platforms and we're talking about, uh, big venues and things out there that uh artists need, and, uh, let's talk about boss man dilo. First of all, how y'all feeling with my, with his second album and the run he on and you know, and then we'll get to the road and live performance, because I do feel like he had that thing on smash uh. So, how y'all feeling about boss man, who want to take it first, how y'all feeling with him and and his role in live performance?
Speaker 3:I saw him. I want to get to this first. I saw him talking about making a minute and a half songs. A minute and 30 seconds. No, no, no. Before we go forward.
Speaker 1:How you going to switch the subject, bro. We should have finished.
Speaker 3:We should have answered the question.
Speaker 2:We're talking about that on the television. In five more years we're going to be making zero, zero, zero. I'm sorry, you just messed me all up the value of dumb music that's turned up is just crazy.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry, global, I'm sorry, but I had to throw that in there real quick.
Speaker 1:No, but I mean we can get to it, but go ahead. Okay, so you want to talk about that first?
Speaker 2:Let's talk about it. Let's get there. Since you're there, let's talk about it.
Speaker 1:Go ahead. So what you? You got something to say, or you asking us on, go ahead.
Speaker 3:Yeah, how y'all feel about it, because a minute 30, that feels like it's not even an intro, a hook, a verse, and it's over Just because he said that I'm about to go back to making three plus minute songs.
Speaker 2:I promise you, I'm going to be making three plus minute songs.
Speaker 1:How y'all feel about it.
Speaker 2:I'm going to let Slim, let me, let just finish.
Speaker 2:I'm not dumbing down my songs, bro, I'm not doing. I'm not. I feel like it's. It used to be like okay, artists used to be trendsetters, what we do the fans like and we create what's cool and what's not cool. Now it's the other way around, where the fan is telling the artist hey, one minute song is cool, and you're literally making it to what they want.
Speaker 2:Like I ain't doing that, man, I'm going to continue to do what I'm doing already, Like if the song happened to be a minute or short, that's just what it is. But I'm not going in the studio saying man, you know what? Man? The fans ain't listening to the songs. No more, that's over two minutes. So I'm just about to make one minute in the 59 something. No, no, I'm not doing that bro. I feel like somebody telling me go in the studio and dumb it down, man, you only going to be dumb so long. Yeah, After a while you're going to get tired of dumb. Like, I get it, I get it. But what's going to happen in the few is they're going to start saying man.
Speaker 2:D-Lo sound the same every time. I'm tired of him Because he's doing the same flow and dumb down same flow and people like it. But you only going to like dumb so long, bro. You only going go play dumb so long.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Eventually they go get tired of it.
Speaker 1:You, you. I, first of all, I feel like it's a little.
Speaker 2:I feel like it's a little lazy, if I'm being transparent if I'm being honest, it's down to the simplest form and that's what people want to hear when they're in a club drunk and when they messed up. But it's like you also want a substance too, but but you also want the substance too. But people don't get in their mind the things that we force artists into Then we dislike later on down the line and we don't get that. We shape this artist into that Because that's the flow. You wanted him to keep doing you like that song, so you want him to keep creating that. Then later on down the line, you tired of the flow, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think a minute and a half though we take the average song is a eight bar intro, a eight bar hook, a 16 bar verse, and then the hook repeats. That's gonna take you to a minute and a half, fam, right. So if you're doing a movie or this is for a scene, that sounds typical, I know what the radio or what the DJ would play, but that's for a certain environment, but I don't, I stroke, I can't, I can never, always get off 16 bars and say all I want to say. So to me it's always like, damn, I gotta jump to the. You. We always trying to finish it, to finish it where it makes sense. So when you start the second verse, you know, I mean you can continue the rest of the sequence.
Speaker 1:I just don't know how I would feel always satisfied unless it's an intro or an outro to say like that's gonna be the new wave. If I was doing it, I would be doing it and I wouldn't be speaking up on it. But it is scary to say that, damn, you're gonna give me a minute and a half of a record for me to really be satisfied like, yeah, I, your album's going to go from. I mean, we barely get 12 songs in the album. So 12 songs a minute and a half I'm paying. There's no substance. I don't think it's enough. Now, I don't know what he was on. Maybe he was in a good vibe and he just threw that out there. But I think, true artist, artistry, that's not the wave, that's not gonna last long and if you listen to d-low, unfortunately he's probably gonna need to chill and experience some things. So he has more to say.
Speaker 2:But you can only talk about getting money, swerving the car and saying it's like I seen, like I seen him rapping before he made it and he was rapping different, yeah, and he had substance to it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2:I said, once you make it, the fans, hey, this song right here they want, and it's not just the fans. I'm pretty sure the label keep making the same song over and over and over the minute you switch up that, no, we don't like that right there.
Speaker 2:We don't like that. No, no, no, no, we don't like that. Well, we need that. We need that other flow, the flow you've been doing, you know, and then it's like after a while you get bored of that. But that is the, that is the flow that that was popping. It's like club scene, body slam to me. That's not my best song, that's not my most lyrical song, not by a long shot, but that's what the people like. That's what they want to hear. You get what I'm saying. I got other songs, but they want to hear club scene because green body smell when you come to the club. That's.
Speaker 1:But you know what club scene? Because that's a club scene to me it's still. You feel like you dumbed it down on club scene or you just feel it's not, like it's not that I dumped it down, I just focused.
Speaker 2:I just told myself I was saying F, use every line, and with this and with that. That's basically what the whole song was about. That's it.
Speaker 1:Do you know your verse? I don't want to put you on. Do you know your verse? Can you do the first? But your verse is still unique as fuck, though.
Speaker 2:She fucking with me, she fuck with the clique, she fuck with the team.
Speaker 1:Now, that's a whole lot of fucking, ain't it?
Speaker 2:That's why these niggas doing a whole lot of cussing, ain't it?
Speaker 1:I want you to, I just don't want you to. I think you're cutting yourself a little short. Though, dog, it bothers me. No, no, no.
Speaker 2:I'm lyrical, but I'm just saying it's not my, my. If I was to say I, if we talk about rapping, rapping, yeah, we go around somebody and we talk about oh, who the best rapper from here? Y'all bring him verse van damme. I'm not gonna say oh, club scene is the song that I want to put up.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, okay, okay. I want to say that for a club song, nigga them bars. For I'm going to do that even in love songs. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, like, I just want you to know.
Speaker 2:like nigga, that's because I'm a bar nigga, I'm a punchline nigga and I want to say I went back I'm talking about recently, nigga, I'm talking about within a month or so.
Speaker 1:I was bumping this shit and I was just really listening. I'm like this shit slap, but I'm like this shit hard. You don't listen to club scene and just say, oh, it's just the beat, but, nigga, you brought heat, like it's still. I still respect the. I'm not listening to it because I'm drunk. I'm going to like it. Club scene is my anthem because, nigga, I'm feeling like I'm that, nigga Like it got me feeling like nigga.
Speaker 2:I'm that bad when I walk up in this bitch Because it was natural. Yeah, it wasn't something that I was lying about. Yeah, this was our life. This was us going to the club. We was in the club every day. It wasn't.
Speaker 1:Monday, tuesday, wednesday.
Speaker 2:Thursday.
Speaker 3:You feel me, I was 16.
Speaker 1:You feel me, I've been in clubs, performing every night Everything that they was talking about this stuff that we was just doing and we just put it in the song it just it came together like that.
Speaker 2:You know what? I mean, yeah, that's a hard it's hard, it's the authenticity of it and the timing of it. It's hard that was what everybody was doing. We was all clubbing, we was all on the club scene.
Speaker 3:They're right and I don't know what my dog saying is, though, but you had the ball. Yeah, that's what I want you to like. I don't even think you should have to like because it's a.
Speaker 1:It's a, it's a still hold way, it's a good ass song and your, your verse is to it's still like it's content in it. It's creative, it's yeah Like it ain't, like it's just old, yeah.
Speaker 2:Just me. That's everything I do. That's just me, cause I really, I really sit down and really go into my songs. Like other artists might not do that. That's why I'm telling you Like I actually sat down and said I'm going to make everything, I'm fucking with this, I'm fucking with that, she's fucking with it, I'm fucking with Liam. I had that whole concept for the song yeah, and everybody else just followed behind it. If I wouldn't have said that, people would have just wrote their verse if I wouldn't have said that people would have just wrote their verse.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you get what I'm saying. Yeah, so it's like I really go into these things and really study. It's just like I was telling you about the recording stuff. I really take my time and I really care about what I'm saying and I want to respect everybody versus.
Speaker 1:I just want to say is that you? Still brought bars like it's still, I don't. I never looked at it like oh, he just like and I'm just. I never looked at it like that, it was just like damn, that nigga said some shit.
Speaker 2:Boy, I know it's like telling lebron like yeah, man, that dunk you did like that was the best dunk you did, and lebron, like I know, like to you like I get it. But yeah, I just know me, I the dunk was good. I'm not saying it's good, yeah, but when you know, you know, I'm saying like rapping, rapping, rapping. I'm not saying the bars on that song wasn't good, but to me, if we talking about rapping, rapping, I'm finna. Spit some shit. That's finna. Make your head, do 360s.
Speaker 1:And I want to say something.
Speaker 2:That's not one of them songs to me.
Speaker 1:Because at the time I I didn't know you like I know you today, but you know we crossed paths. You know I'm saying out in the city but there was a dj in tallahassee oh damn, I want, I think he was in tallahassee. I'm gonna say his name. You probably might know him. Um, we was on the phone a lot. He used to do a lot of mixtapes and he got a few of my records on there and that's how I knew, like club scene, go ahead. Dj Prince, dj Sugar Black.
Speaker 2:Oh, sugar Black, For sure, dj Sugar Black. I still follow my dog on Twitter, okay, okay and he was heavy Drago you talk about mixtapes and cities.
Speaker 1:And he was a mixtape, like nigga had CDs all over, you know what I'm saying. So when I was working with him and talking to him he happened to bring up pcc. That time that record was, it was hot at his peak and I think it was on one of his, his projects, and he was must have. He was doing some stuff with y'all or you know, helping with the marketing and stuff like that. But that's how I knew. The record and what was happening was big because he, because he was all in for it and he felt like oh them, boys out of here, fat boy, he was like oh them, boys out of here. I know about PCC.
Speaker 2:I done, did a whole mixtape because of Sugar Black. Like literally hey, van Damme, go get this Nipsey Hussle beat. Hey, go get this beat. I want you to talk about this on here.
Speaker 1:Talk about this on here, talk about florida on here, do this. Yeah, I got a whole project we never released how niggas be working dog and it's outside the city. But when you in the network like people gonna be talking and I'm like, damn them, boys, way up here, because that's where I'm trying to go, but they already there that's how I always knew people working.
Speaker 1:It's like that's the beauty part of this man. It's like damn, I was happy to hear that and I was like, yes, sir, I know them boys, he's like you know him, I'm like yeah, they're from the crib.
Speaker 2:Like damn right you know them boys, sugar black, legendary yeah man shout out to sugar black man he gave me a lot of game dog no charge, but if you're on the phone with him hey, boy you need to be doing.
Speaker 1:He is one of the ones remind me a bigger yeah, remind me a bigger yes, sir, yes, sir, yes, let's get the rolling, all right, dragging them.
Speaker 1:Hey, what about the one-minute songs? So I just wanted to talk because we want to talk about DJ 14 and Slim. I'm probably going to let you take off on that because I know y'all got a relationship. I've seen them a few times so I know we're going to build on that. But Boss man D-Lo I thought the performance was great. Um, obviously he has a fan base and with the new album, um, the mo chicken song is definitely doing well and 46 street. So it looks like when he performed those songs, the audience knew it and was really receptive to it. Um, I think he's gonna be here for a little bit longer, man, you know everybody was saying one album, one song done, but he working kid, kid got swag man, you can't take that away from him, yeah he working.
Speaker 2:It's just how long the people going. You know what I'm saying. Hopefully they don't get tired of it.
Speaker 1:It just happened bro. Yeah.
Speaker 2:It happened.
Speaker 1:Nah, I'm with you, Drego. You saw the performance, or what you got.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, the shit was lit, the shit was lit, the shit was lit. Okay, I think him and Kodak really, really rocked the stage.
Speaker 1:My beef with Kodak is he don't be rapping for real, Like he didn't be putting the mic out, dog, and let everybody sing the song.
Speaker 2:Like. I'm not a fan of that, though I ain't gonna lie to you that's too lit.
Speaker 1:No, Y'all don't tell me that man Y'all going to make me like lose love. But no, you can do it on certain parts Wild Wave.
Speaker 2:He barely performed. That's what he was doing. Hey, I'll tell you what you ain't going to get my bread.
Speaker 3:You hear me, you ain't going to get my bread.
Speaker 2:I'll keep going to them damn R&B concerts and let them dance and give me the whole.
Speaker 1:I was like pizzas and cream in my ass. I'm like, hey, let go.
Speaker 3:Bro, if they rock with you like that, why you say one thing? The reason why?
Speaker 1:No, don't say that, Draco no. I came to watch a performance bro.
Speaker 3:Experience the person you've been hearing.
Speaker 2:And see if it's you get the same experience live.
Speaker 3:I respect it. But if you know your crowd gonna do that, you gotta know how to do your performance For sure. But the whole show you gonna do that?
Speaker 2:You ain't gonna put the mic down. You can't do the whole show. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Kodak might say 10 words on a fucking song. Bro, Come on man.
Speaker 3:I'm going to give you an example. I agree.
Speaker 2:A lot of people do be tired too. A lot of people have breathing problems and concerning D-Lo said that.
Speaker 1:Get a hype man. That's what they're for. That's what a hype man for.
Speaker 3:The reason why I say that is there's one performance that I love so much and he wasn't even in the States. It was. What's his name? God damn, y'all made me lose his name. But Sing that shit. The box In the box. Gunner, no, roddy Roddy.
Speaker 1:Oh, oh, roddy Rich, roddy Rich.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry. So when when he I said Roddy Rich yeah, you good bitch. I said, I said gunna when the crowd, when the crowd was singing that, but he's singing it too, but you hear the power of the crowd to where you almost lost control and they took over. I can respect that, but he was still going. Now, these boys right here, that 10-word thing I cannot respect. Get them black.
Speaker 1:Get them black, get them black, get them black, fuck them up.
Speaker 2:You ain't go in front of the mic, you ain't got to rap for real. They got all kinds of codes I don't want to go to a.
Speaker 1:No, I don't want to see that, bro. I don't want to see that, bro. If I go to see somebody baby, come down, come down.
Speaker 3:And then the crowd took over, bro. But Draco, stop, I want to say something that will clear.
Speaker 1:You talk if it's a moment. I get it.
Speaker 2:I'm talking about if I'm watching clip after clip and 90% of your show is you standing there and just vibing with the crowd.
Speaker 1:I don't need to pay $300 for a ticket to see you do that. Bro, I'm going to play the record by my damn self and I'm good I don't know if it's just me, but yeah, I'm not doing that, bro, you feel me.
Speaker 2:I feel like that's the new generation I feel like, and that's what I say. I feel like that's the new generation I feel like and that's what I say. I feel like the fans have took control of the artistry, because now, that has became the level of like all right, how many if you really got, if they really rock with you.
Speaker 2:Let's see you go to a show and the whole crowd is singing your song and you ain't got to say nothing. That's the new normal. And the whole crowd is singing your song and you ain't got to say nothing. That's the new normal. That's the new thing. You're not popping unless you post the video and the whole crowd is singing your song. So that is the new thing. You know what I'm saying and they taking that. And hey, I'm finna, perform my concerts like that.
Speaker 1:You got to rap this bitch. I don't know if y'all going to feel the same way, but I still feel like I'm gonna pay you this $100,000, and they gonna sing it the biggest R&B nigga to me. And he still put on a show. He gonna dance, he gonna sing, saying Chris Brown don't do that shit, for sure.
Speaker 2:You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:So that's what I want to pay for oh my. God, Come on. Michael didn't do it either. Michael had it like that too, and you're going to spend a stack to take a picture, but I'm saying he give you the whole shebang.
Speaker 1:That's what I want to pay for me. I'm going to go pay for that. I don't got no problem to go experience that. But if you're just going to hold the, mic out, dog.
Speaker 2:That ain't it Me. I'm a live type. I want to be a live performer, like if I'm doing bitch shows like that, I don't want to be rapping over nothing. I'm a Jada Kiss Like get me.
Speaker 3:You got a band.
Speaker 2:I'm finna, show y'all the difference between a rapper and an artist.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna show you the difference Because a lot of these people ain't real artists, so Ad libs or you taking the ad libs off too.
Speaker 2:What ad libs?
Speaker 1:You don't get the ad libs on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you got the hot man ad libs. Ooh, I never fall in my live performance. You never.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh, my dog going raw on the beat. I really do this, oh Lord.
Speaker 2:I really do this.
Speaker 3:Okay, you rock with the band and all that.
Speaker 1:No, he's saying just the instrumental Draco. He's saying they take off the ad. Like some artists, we keep the strength in us or we keep ad libs on them. But he's saying it's just beat. If the mic is in front of me, I'm rapping.
Speaker 2:Ain't no video and the music not playing. Like I don't play that. To me, that's Milli Vanilli. Like I don't do that.
Speaker 3:If I got the mic in front of me.
Speaker 2:I'm rapping it. I don't care if it's on TikTok, instagram, whatever it's on. That's really me rapping. It's not the recorder playing and then I'm lip syncing it. I don't play that, nah. That's why I say it's a different. You can't do that. You used to get frowned upon. Nah. That's the difference between an artist and a rapper. A lot of these dudes rappers they ain't no artists, what you wouldn't even be a fan of some of them if they do live performances bro that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's kind of scary. That's the scary part of it, like not being a fan no more. That's scary 90% of these people are studio artists yeah they always sound good in the studio you gotta work on that, man, they gotta work on that, especially if you're doing the new generation.
Speaker 2:you don't have to be good at performing, you don't have to. That's the new generation. You can put on a bit of lip sync, the whole thing through. Nobody going to discredit you or nothing. You know what I'm saying it's the new generation.
Speaker 3:I think when Payne did his live thing, I think I fell in love with him even more.
Speaker 2:I don't know if y'all saw that, that live band with the ladies. They're on the radar. I like it but I don't A lot of the videos.
Speaker 3:I'd be like man. I feel like I was in the car.
Speaker 2:Oh, he's snapping and I'm like he's not even rapping, he's snapping the studio.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:But that's not him. But the average fan doesn't know that. They think this person is really rapping live. That's what they think. So it's like you're tricking the people. That's Milli Vanilli. That's what it is, milli Vanilli. I respect Mario. Mario went on that song live.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's why he crushed it.
Speaker 2:You got an R&B the verses.
Speaker 3:Sing it loud they all rappers scared to rap All them boys. He crushed them all man.
Speaker 2:Sauce Walker. I seen him do some lives, but most of these people like they be just lip syncing. There ain't nothing wrong with it, but it's just like it's the difference between the artists and the rappers.
Speaker 1:I do respect the ones who can do that, though. I do respect it because I feel like you deserve to be in arenas and selling tickets and on tour, if that's how you're performing, for sure, yeah yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 2:It's a live performance that I'm coming to, not a voiceover performance, right? Yes, so you're like. I just watched this battle round. Y'all watch battle rap. I watch clips I never, like the one with the one with the rimmy arsenal and murder mood man shout out to them yeah, you get what I'm saying. It's difference between I love arsenal, I love he's one of the most disrespectful battle rappers has ever been energetic. But it's a difference between artists and rapping Murder Moot. He a real artist. That's why he one of the GOATs Ours choked up.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I respect them boys. Them boys got a different artistry Choked up, got a lot to remember. That's what I'm saying. It's the difference between art.
Speaker 2:That's the type of stuff I watch, hey them boys got it.
Speaker 3:That's the type of stuff that I watch.
Speaker 2:That's my brain, that's my pen, that's what I do. I sit back and watch at home. That's the type of stuff I sit back and watch.
Speaker 3:That doesn't make you think, like whoa, how he come up with that.
Speaker 2:Niggas can't even perform a song, these boys going three rounds 30 minutes.
Speaker 3:Those are real performers, those performers, yeah.
Speaker 2:And only got a couple days to prepare. Yeah, pair you get what I'm saying, but we're not going to put them on the same level as rappers, but really they better than rappers To me, yeah because if they get the rapper, it's going to be over. They just can't really format. They're not really good at formatting songs. A lot of them, that's it. That's their only downfall. They're not really good at putting it into a song, but they can rap, yes, sir but they can rap.
Speaker 1:Yes, sir, no, yes, sir, man. With that being said, y'all tune in to another episode of Exposure. I be your boy, the Global Zo, and I'm with the gang.
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